# Chess: glee v Mosier

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 5, 2011, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116 "2011-12-05T11:58:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2012, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/41 "2012-01-09T00:15:28Z")

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**1. e4 e5  
2. Nf3 Nc6  
3. Bc4 Nf6  
4. Ng5 d5  
5. exd5 Na5  
6. Bb5+ c6  
7. dxc6 bxc6  
8. Be2 h6  
9. Nf3 Bd6  
10. d4 e4  
11. Ne5**

It is interesting that if instead the game had gone:

1. … e4
2. Ne5 Bd6
3. d4

we would apparently have the same position - except that Black could now play 11. … exd3 en passant.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2012, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/42 "2012-01-11T15:56:04Z")

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I am starting to get much more uncomfortable with my position!

I think my goal for the short term ought to be making a bigger threat against the e5 square, since it seems to be the most vulnerable white piece. I can accomplish that by threatening your d4 pawn with … c6-c5. I can’t do that until I somehow fix the bB5 check that would result. I can prevent that by castling now. I’m trying to see a way in which you could gain advantage from me castling, and I don’t see it. So for the short term, I’m planning to castle (which I think is notated as 0-0), and then c6-c5 my next move. Here goes!

**1. e4 e5  
2. Nf3 Nc6  
3. Bc4 Nf6  
4. Ng5 d5  
5. exd5 Na5  
6. Bb5+ c6  
7. dxc6 bxc6  
8. Be2 h6  
9. Nf3 Bd6  
10. d4 e4  
11. Ne5 0-0**

game [here!](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?w=8&h=8&p=PRNBQKBNRPPPPPPPP ________________________________ pppppppprnbqkbnr0&m=e4_e5_Nf3_Nc6_Bc4_Nf6_Ng5_d5_exd5_Na5_Bb5*_c6_dxc6_bxc6_Be2_h6_Nf3_Bd6_d4_e4_Ne5_O-O&s=White&n=22&f=)

Sorry if my reasoning seems a bit “stream of consciousness.” I’m typing how I’m thinking, which is not nearly linear or logically organized. 🙂 If you can decipher my rambling, please critique my reasoning.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/43 "2012-01-12T13:47:22Z")

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**1. e4 e5  
2. Nf3 Nc6  
3. Bc4 Nf6  
4. Ng5 d5  
5. exd5 Na5  
6. Bb5+ c6  
7. dxc6 bxc6  
8. Be2 h6  
9. Nf3 Bd6  
10. d4 e4  
11. Ne5 O-O  
12. O-O**

Yes, castling on the kingsdie is written as O-O (or OO) is chess notation.  
Queenside castling (e.g. White King to c1; White Rook to d1) is written O-O-O (or OOO.)

> [@Mosier](#):
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> I am starting to get much more uncomfortable with my position!
> 
> I think my goal for the short term ought to be making a bigger threat against the e5 square, since it seems to be the most vulnerable white piece. I can accomplish that by threatening your d4 pawn with … c6-c5. I can’t do that until I somehow fix the bB5 check that would result. I can prevent that by castling now. I’m trying to see a way in which you could gain advantage from me castling, and I don’t see it. So for the short term, I’m planning to castle (which I think is notated as 0-0), and then c6-c5 my next move. Here goes!

This is good analysis! My well-placed (centralised) knight on e5 is both my best piece and my most vulnerable. Therefore you should look at attacking or undermining it.

> [@Mosier](#):
>
> Sorry if my reasoning seems a bit “stream of consciousness.” I’m typing how I’m thinking, which is not nearly linear or logically organized. 🙂 If you can decipher my rambling, please critique my reasoning.

Your thoughts are clear to me - this is how chess players think. The top players just have so much experience that they recognise patterns immediately and don’t need to work ‘step-by-step’.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/44 "2012-01-12T15:35:13Z")

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Here I’m following through with my plan, which I don’t think was affected too much by your castling. I expect you’ll reinforce the pawn by moving c2-c3, or by Be3.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. Ng5 d5
5. exd5 Na5
6. Bb5+ c6
7. dxc6 bxc6
8. Be2 h6
9. Nf3 Bd6
10. d4 e4
11. Ne5 O-O
12. O-O c6-c5

game [here.](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?w=8&h=8&p=PRNBQKBNRPPPPPPPP ________________________________ pppppppprnbqkbnr0&m=e4_e5_Nf3_Nc6_Bc4_Nf6_Ng5_d5_exd5_Na5_Bb5*_c6_dxc6_bxc6_Be2_h6_Nf3_Bd6_d4_e4_Ne5_O-O_O-O_c5&s=White&n=24&f=)

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/45 "2012-01-13T02:06:14Z")

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**1. e4 e5  
2. Nf3 Nc6  
3. Bc4 Nf6  
4. Ng5 d5  
5. exd5 Na5  
6. Bb5+ c6  
7. dxc6 bxc6  
8. Be2 h6  
9. Nf3 Bd6  
10. d4 e4  
11. Ne5 O-O  
12. O-O c6-c5  
13. c3**

> [@Mosier](#):
>
> Here I’m following through with my plan, which I don’t think was affected too much by your castling. I expect you’ll reinforce the pawn by moving c2-c3, or by Be3.

That was good analysis. 🙂

It’s funny, because I thought I was a clear pawn ahead. (The main line goes 9. … e4 10. Ne5 Bd6 11. d4 exd3 en passant, and deviating usually means a weaker move)  
But you have some play and I need to be careful.  
It’s important to be honest about analysing chess - just because I thought I had a winning position doesn’t mean I can keep that view once studying continuations shows something different.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/46 "2012-01-13T18:00:50Z")

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I’m moving Re1 to put more pressure on the knight. I figure if you respond with f2-f4, I can respond with g7-g5. That would expose my king a bit, but it seems like it would take you a few turns to capitalize on that. In exchange, I think it would dislodge your knight and give me some more room to play.

Although I didn’t intend for my forward pawn to be a major piece, I sure am happy it’s there now!

**1. e4 e5  
2. Nf3 Nc6  
3. Bc4 Nf6  
4. Ng5 d5  
5. exd5 Na5  
6. Bb5+ c6  
7. dxc6 bxc6  
8. Be2 h6  
9. Nf3 Bd6  
10. d4 e4  
11. Ne5 O-O  
12. O-O c6-c5  
13. c3 Re1**

game [here](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?w=8&h=8&p=PRNBQKBNRPPPPPPPP ________________________________ pppppppprnbqkbnr0&m=e4_e5_Nf3_Nc6_Bc4_Nf6_Ng5_d5_exd5_Na5_Bb5*_c6_dxc6_bxc6_Be2_h6_Nf3_Bd6_d4_e4_Ne5_O-O_O-O_c5_c3_Re8&s=White&n=26&f=)

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/47 "2012-01-23T11:53:20Z")

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\*\*1. e4 e5  
2. Nf3 Nc6  
3. Bc4 Nf6  
4. Ng5 d5  
5. exd5 Na5  
6. Bb5+ c6  
7. dxc6 bxc6  
8. Be2 h6  
9. Nf3 Bd6  
10. d4 e4  
11. Ne5 O-O  
12. O-O c6-c5  
13. c3 Re8  
14. f4 \*\*

> [@Mosier](#):
>
> I’m moving Re8 to put more pressure on the knight. I figure if you respond with f2-f4, I can respond with g7-g5. That would expose my king a bit, but it seems like it would take you a few turns to capitalize on that. In exchange, I think it would dislodge your knight and give me some more room to play.
> 
> Although I didn’t intend for my forward pawn to be a major piece, I sure am happy it’s there now!

(I corrected Re1 to Re8.)  
Note that you can play 14. … exf3 en passant if you want.

[spoiler]If Black plays 14. … g5, I think he loses quickly:

1. fxg5 hxg5
2. Bxg5 and the Knoght on f6 is horribly pinned, whilst the Black King is exposed…[/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/48 "2012-01-23T15:45:37Z")

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I don’t know if I wasn’t supposed to click the spoiler box, but I did anyway. I’m glad I did, because otherwise I would have made a big mistake.

Now that you mention it, the en pessant seems like my best move. After that, I expect you’ll capture with Bxf3, and I can protect my rook with Bb7. After that, you’ll have to find another way to reinforce your knight, or abandon the position.

I can see a possible weakness for me with you moving b2-b4, but if I capture your bishop with mine, it will buy me a turn to escape with my knight.

I’m having a hard time thinking further than that. Brain hurts!

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. Ng5 d5
5. exd5 Na5
6. Bb5+ c6
7. dxc6 bxc6
8. Be2 h6
9. Nf3 Bd6
10. d4 e4
11. Ne5 O-O
12. O-O c6-c5
13. c3 Re8 (thanks for the correction there!)
14. f4 e4xf3

game [here](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?w=8&h=8&p=PRNBQKBNRPPPPPPPP ________________________________ pppppppprnbqkbnr0&m=e4_e5_Nf3_Nc6_Bc4_Nf6_Ng5_d5_exd5_Na5_Bb5*_c6_dxc6_bxc6_Be2_h6_Nf3_Bd6_d4_e4_Ne5_O-O_O-O_c5_c3_Re8_f4_exf3&s=White&n=28&f=)

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/49 "2012-01-23T17:31:33Z")

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**1. e4 e5  
2. Nf3 Nc6  
3. Bc4 Nf6  
4. Ng5 d5  
5. exd5 Na5  
6. Bb5+ c6  
7. dxc6 bxc6  
8. Be2 h6  
9. Nf3 Bd6  
10. d4 e4  
11. Ne5 O-O  
12. O-O c6-c5  
13. c3 Re8  
14. f4 e4xf3  
15. Bxf3**

> [@Mosier](#):
>
> I don’t know if I wasn’t supposed to click the spoiler box, but I did anyway. I’m glad I did, because otherwise I would have made a big mistake.

I thought it was diplomatic to put the warning in the Spoiler!

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/50 "2012-01-23T23:49:57Z")

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1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. Ng5 d5
5. exd5 Na5
6. Bb5+ c6
7. dxc6 bxc6
8. Be2 h6
9. Nf3 Bd6
10. d4 e4
11. Ne5 O-O
12. O-O c6-c5
13. c3 Re8
14. f4 e4xf3
15. Bxf3 Bb7

The small amount of momentum I had is gone. I still see a pretty close game at this point, though.

[link](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?w=8&h=8&p=PRNBQKBNRPPPPPPPP ________________________________ pppppppprnbqkbnr0&m=e4_e5_Nf3_Nc6_Bc4_Nf6_Ng5_d5_exd5_Na5_Bb5*_c6_dxc6_bxc6_Be2_h6_Nf3_Bd6_d4_e4_Ne5_O-O_O-O_c5_c3_Re8_f4_exf3_Bxf3_Bb7&s=White&n=30&f=)

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/51 "2012-01-24T02:17:25Z")

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**1. e4 e5  
2. Nf3 Nc6  
3. Bc4 Nf6  
4. Ng5 d5  
5. exd5 Na5  
6. Bb5+ c6  
7. dxc6 bxc6  
8. Be2 h6  
9. Nf3 Bd6  
10. d4 e4  
11. Ne5 O-O  
12. O-O c6-c5  
13. c3 Re8  
14. f4 e4xf3  
15. Bxf3 Bb7  
16. Bxb7**

If 16. … Nxb7  
17. Nxf7 (ole!)

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/52 "2012-01-27T19:15:32Z")

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**1. e4 e5  
2. Nf3 Nc6  
3. Bc4 Nf6  
4. Ng5 d5  
5. exd5 Na5  
6. Bb5+ c6  
7. dxc6 bxc6  
8. Be2 h6  
9. Nf3 Bd6  
10. d4 e4  
11. Ne5 O-O  
12. O-O c6-c5  
13. c3 Re8  
14. f4 e4xf3  
15. Bxf3 Bb7  
16. Bxb7 Nxb7  
17. Nxf7 Kxf7**

I can see the pin on my knight, but I couldn’t think of a better alternative!

[game](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?w=8&h=8&p=PRNBQKBNRPPPPPPPP ________________________________ pppppppprnbqkbnr0&m=e4_e5_Nf3_Nc6_Bc4_Nf6_Ng5_d5_exd5_Na5_Bb5*_c6_dxc6_bxc6_Be2_h6_Nf3_Bd6_d4_e4_Ne5_O-O_O-O_c5_c3_Re8_f4_exf3_Bxf3_Bb7_Bxb7_Nxb7_Nxf7_Kxf7&s=White&n=34&f=)

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/53 "2012-01-28T01:21:54Z")

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**1. e4 e5  
2. Nf3 Nc6  
3. Bc4 Nf6  
4. Ng5 d5  
5. exd5 Na5  
6. Bb5+ c6  
7. dxc6 bxc6  
8. Be2 h6  
9. Nf3 Bd6  
10. d4 e4  
11. Ne5 O-O  
12. O-O c6-c5  
13. c3 Re8  
14. f4 e4xf3  
15. Bxf3 Bb7  
16. Bxb7 Nxb7  
17. Nxf7 Kxf7  
18. Qb3+**

There is a **fork** on your King and Knight on b7, which means I win my piece back.

My rook is **pinning** your Knight on f6 against your King, but this doesn’t win anything for me.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/54 "2012-02-01T23:42:16Z")

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1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. Ng5 d5
5. exd5 Na5
6. Bb5+ c6
7. dxc6 bxc6
8. Be2 h6
9. Nf3 Bd6
10. d4 e4
11. Ne5 O-O
12. O-O c6-c5
13. c3 Re8
14. f4 e4xf3
15. Bxf3 Bb7
16. Bxb7 Nxb7
17. Nxf7 Kxf7
18. Qb3+ Kf8

Even though it leaves me pinned by your rook, I think its better than the alternatives, which would either limit my rook’s movement or leave my king even more open to attack.

Sorry for the long delay! There’s a lot going on here at the moment.

game [here](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?w=8&h=8&p=PRNBQKBNRPPPPPPPP ________________________________ pppppppprnbqkbnr0&m=e4_e5_Nf3_Nc6_Bc4_Nf6_Ng5_d5_exd5_Na5_Bb5*_c6_dxc6_bxc6_Be2_h6_Nf3_Bd6_d4_e4_Ne5_O-O_O-O_c5_c3_Re8_f4_exf3_Bxf3_Bb7_Bxb7_Nxb7_Nxf7_Kxf7_Qb3*_Kf8&s=White&n=36&f=)

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/55 "2012-02-03T03:25:45Z")

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**1. e4 e5  
2. Nf3 Nc6  
3. Bc4 Nf6  
4. Ng5 d5  
5. exd5 Na5  
6. Bb5+ c6  
7. dxc6 bxc6  
8. Be2 h6  
9. Nf3 Bd6  
10. d4 e4  
11. Ne5 O-O  
12. O-O c6-c5  
13. c3 Re8  
14. f4 e4xf3  
15. Bxf3 Bb7  
16. Bxb7 Nxb7  
17. Nxf7 Kxf7  
18. Qb3+ Kf8  
19. Qxb7**

> [@Mosier](#):
>
> Even though it leaves me pinned by your rook, I think its better than the alternatives, which would either limit my rook’s movement or leave my king even more open to attack.

Yes, this was a tricky choice.  
18. … Kg6 keeps your pieces active, but leaves your king exposed.  
It’s the sort of move you play when you feel you’re losing and need to take risks to save the game.

> [@Mosier](#):
>
> Sorry for the long delay! There’s a lot going on here at the moment.

No problem - hope things work out.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/56 "2012-02-04T20:44:39Z")

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1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. Ng5 d5
5. exd5 Na5
6. Bb5+ c6
7. dxc6 bxc6
8. Be2 h6
9. Nf3 Bd6
10. d4 e4
11. Ne5 O-O
12. O-O c6-c5
13. c3 Re8
14. f4 e4xf3
15. Bxf3 Bb7
16. Bxb7 Nxb7
17. Nxf7 Kxf7
18. Qb3+ Kf8
19. Qxb7 Kg8

I want to stop the pin on my knight so I can get him to work. I’m feeling the pressure now, and I can only imagine it will get worse until the end. 🙂

[game](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?w=8&h=8&p=PRNBQKBNRPPPPPPPP ________________________________ pppppppprnbqkbnr0&m=e4_e5_Nf3_Nc6_Bc4_Nf6_Ng5_d5_exd5_Na5_Bb5*_c6_dxc6_bxc6_Be2_h6_Nf3_Bd6_d4_e4_Ne5_O-O_O-O_c5_c3_Re8_f4_exf3_Bxf3_Bb7_Bxb7_Nxb7_Nxf7_Kxf7_Qb3*_Kf8_Qxb7_Kg8&s=White&n=38&f=)

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/57 "2012-02-06T05:06:22Z")

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1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. Ng5 d5
5. exd5 Na5
6. Bb5+ c6
7. dxc6 bxc6
8. Be2 h6
9. Nf3 Bd6
10. d4 e4
11. Ne5 O-O
12. O-O c6-c5
13. c3 Re8
14. f4 e4xf3
15. Bxf3 Bb7
16. Bxb7 Nxb7
17. Nxf7 Kxf7
18. Qb3+ Kf8
19. Qxb7 Kg8
20. Qf3

You have more active pieces, even though my two pawn advantage is enough to win.  
So I’m consolidating by retreating (you could always gain time by attacking my Queen anyway…)  
Once I finish my development and keep my king safe, I’ll be looking to exchange off into an ending (the easiest way to finish.)

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/58 "2012-02-10T21:54:40Z")

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1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. Ng5 d5
5. exd5 Na5
6. Bb5+ c6
7. dxc6 bxc6
8. Be2 h6
9. Nf3 Bd6
10. d4 e4
11. Ne5 O-O
12. O-O c6-c5
13. c3 Re8
14. f4 e4xf3
15. Bxf3 Bb7
16. Bxb7 Nxb7
17. Nxf7 Kxf7
18. Qb3+ Kf8
19. Qxb7 Kg8
20. Qf3 Re4

I’m hoping to get some offensive momentum here, but I feel like I’m fighting uphill!

[game](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?w=8&h=8&p=PRNBQKBNRPPPPPPPP ________________________________ pppppppprnbqkbnr0&m=e4_e5_Nf3_Nc6_Bc4_Nf6_Ng5_d5_exd5_Na5_Bb5*_c6_dxc6_bxc6_Be2_h6_Nf3_Bd6_d4_e4_Ne5_O-O_O-O_c5_c3_Re8_f4_exf3_Bxf3_Bb7_Bxb7_Nxb7_Nxf7_Kxf7_Qb3*_Kf8_Qxb7_Kg8_Qf3_Re4&s=White&n=40&f=)

I appreciate your patience with the longish intervals between my moves. I don’t quite have a chess brain, and even though I’m having lots of fun, it takes a lot of my concentration and energy to make moves that aren’t overtly disastrous.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2012, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/59 "2012-02-16T15:38:19Z")

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1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. Ng5 d5
5. exd5 Na5
6. Bb5+ c6
7. dxc6 bxc6
8. Be2 h6
9. Nf3 Bd6
10. d4 e4
11. Ne5 O-O
12. O-O c6-c5
13. c3 Re8
14. f4 e4xf3
15. Bxf3 Bb7
16. Bxb7 Nxb7
17. Nxf7 Kxf7
18. Qb3+ Kf8
19. Qxb7 Kg8
20. Qf3 Re4
21. Nd2

You’re doing your best - if I consolidate my position, the two extra pawns will win easily.

For interest, here’s a line I considered:

1. Bxh6?! gxh6
2. Qxf6 Qxf6
3. Rxf6 Re1+
4. Rf1 Bxh2+
5. Kf2 Bg3+

and it’s a draw 🆒 , because if I ever take your bishop, I lose my rook - and then your rook dominates both my knight and rook…

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-mosier/605116/60 "2012-02-29T17:24:46Z")

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1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. Ng5 d5
5. exd5 Na5
6. Bb5+ c6
7. dxc6 bxc6
8. Be2 h6
9. Nf3 Bd6
10. d4 e4
11. Ne5 O-O
12. O-O c6-c5
13. c3 Re8
14. f4 e4xf3
15. Bxf3 Bb7
16. Bxb7 Nxb7
17. Nxf7 Kxf7
18. Qb3+ Kf8
19. Qxb7 Kg8
20. Qf3 Re4
21. Nd2 Bxh2+

I’m probably overlooking something, but I think I see a good opportunity to get my initiative back and put you in a difficult position.

I know I’m apologizing for delays every time I post in this game, but I hope you’ll forgive me! My next move won’t take nearly as long. Thanks for being patient with me!

[game](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?w=8&h=8&p=PRNBQKBNRPPPPPPPP ________________________________ pppppppprnbqkbnr0&m=e4_e5_Nf3_Nc6_Bc4_Nf6_Ng5_d5_exd5_Na5_Bb5*_c6_dxc6_bxc6_Be2_h6_Nf3_Bd6_d4_e4_Ne5_O-O_O-O_c5_c3_Re8_f4_exf3_Bxf3_Bb7_Bxb7_Nxb7_Nxf7_Kxf7_Qb3*_Kf8_Qxb7_Kg8_Qf3_Re4_Nd2_Bxh2*_Kxh2_Ng4*_Kh3_Nh2&s=White&n=42&f=)

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