# Chicago Lyric 25 or 6 to 4 Proven Drug Reference

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**Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\
**Created:** [April 24, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-lyric-25-or-6-to-4-proven-drug-reference/494277 "2009-04-24T22:57:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-lyric-25-or-6-to-4-proven-drug-reference/494277/61 "2015-08-19T22:43:16Z")

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Of course!

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**Author:** ![John\_W.Kennedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_w.kennedy/32/1031_2.png) [@John\_W.Kennedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_W.Kennedy)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-lyric-25-or-6-to-4-proven-drug-reference/494277/62 "2015-08-20T01:29:33Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> It was “common knowledge” that the Vietnam War was being fought so that the U.S. could grab all the off-shore oil from Vietnam. (No such oil has ever been found.)

Really? I remember the story being all about tungsten.

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-lyric-25-or-6-to-4-proven-drug-reference/494277/63 "2015-08-20T05:32:30Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> “And is better armed”

Naw, it just has more minions.

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**Author:** ![Match22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Match22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Match22)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-lyric-25-or-6-to-4-proven-drug-reference/494277/64 "2025-07-29T01:49:25Z")

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I, too - watched the entire movie.

No references to LSD 25 or 624.

Nice to see Dick York, Angie Dickinson, Eddie Alpert, Tony Curtis and Bobby Darin.

Disappointed Philipem. Disappointed.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-lyric-25-or-6-to-4-proven-drug-reference/494277/65 "2025-07-29T01:58:32Z")

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> [@mgnull](#):
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> Waiting for the break of day  
> Searching for something to say  
> Flashing lights against the sky  
> Giving up I close my eyes  
> Sitting cross-legged on the floor  
> 25 or 6 to 4  
> Staring blindly into space  
> Getting up to splash my face  
> Wanting just to stay awake  
> Wondering how much I can take  
> Should I try to do some more  
> 25 or 6 to 4  
> Feeling like I ought to sleep  
> Spinning room is sinking deep  
> Searching for something to say  
> Waiting for the break of day  
> 25 or 6 to 4  
> 25 or 6 to 4

That doesn’t really sound like a very fun trip. Sounds more like speed than LSD.

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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2026, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-lyric-25-or-6-to-4-proven-drug-reference/494277/66 "2026-01-06T00:15:33Z")

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I thought it was established that they were trying to write music and someone misspoke the time, and the whole thing refers to just trying to stay awake?

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