Chicago Lyric 25 or 6 to 4 Proven Drug Reference

Here, have one of the several other threads in which we hashed out that no, this song is not about drugs, it was never about drugs, Chicago doesn’t have any other songs about drugs in their catalog, they’ve maintained for 45 years that it isn’t about drugs, and that nobody, anywhere, ever, has used the phrase “25 or 6 to 4” as a name for a drug.

as i said

it was common knowledge that 25 or 6 to 4 meant dropping out on cid vs working a shift with 6 to 4 being a common shift schedule

certainly not about kent state - ridiculous

but believe it’s a tune about writing a tune, that’s cool and fine with me but in my opinion lost history and wrong

the thing i want to mention though
is that thanks to the op i bought the dvd and it’s a very entertaining flick

especially to see mr green acres preformance is super sweet

but as others have posted: no lsd bottle with the claimed label…

Then it should be trivially easy for you to provide an example of the phrase "25 or 6 to 4’ referring to LSD which predates the song.

Or a cite that it was common for people to work 10-hour shifts in the '60s.

because you are incapable of googling 6 to 4 shift work?

and you’ve done acid or not?

as i fucking said, from about tenth grade for me in fucking 1980 we all knew this tune was about doing acid or doing a shift and that’s the whole fucking reason I’m bothering to post

since googling this and browsing very few results of which this site is close to being around 1oo3

i just want to share what was common knowledge in louisville ky in 1980 among tenth graders

here’s a link to shift work hipster. and its not relic from the 60’s but is still used today for folks that are lucky enough to still work in us manufacturing

i could really give a fuck abou educating spoiled kow it gen y millenials on this but since i do know some supremely cool ones, as ricky said to lucy, 'splain this:

Wondering how much I can take
Should I try to do some more
so how exactly does that make more sense in terms of writing a song versus dropping cid

seriously

i mean like totally seriously for fucking real!?

i could really give a fuck about educating spoiled know it all gen y millenials on this but since i do know some supremely cool ones, then on their behalf and as ricky said to lucy, 'splain this:

Wondering how much I can take
Should I try to do some more
so how exactly does that make more sense in terms of writing a song versus dropping cid

seriously

like you are writing a song about writing a song and you write that you wonder how much you can take of this gruelling task of writing a song and whether or not you should try and do some more rather than write some more because do is a more jamming lyric than write and so forth bs obfuscating bs for something that wasn’t ever a doubt in my hood long before the net

According to Bobby Lamm in the SD article:

*Wanting just to stay awake, wondering how much I can take–How far can he push himself to get the song done? *

Should I try to do some more?–This is the line that makes many think it’s a drug song. But it is just as easily construed as a frustrated writer wondering if he should try to do some more lyrics/songwriting.

So, who’s right? The song’s writer, or a bunch of tenth graders in Kentucky? I know who my money’s on.

Wondering how much (more writing tonight) I can take
Should I try to do some more (writing now)

seriously

i mean like totally seriously for fucking real!?

Well, clearly, the word of a tenth-grader is much more trustworthy than the word of the people who wrote, arranged, and have been performing the song for half a century.

Yeah, because no one writes songs about writing songs (or having trouble writing songs)

Gwen Stefani - “What You Waiting For?”
Nora - “Writer’s Block”
Killing The Dream - “Writer’s Block”
Brand New - “Failure By Design”
Jets To Brazil - “I Typed For Miles”
Fatlip - “Writer’s Block”

seriously

Some of these bands even try to fool you into thinking they would write about not being able to write by even naming it “Writer’s Block”.

seriously

Welcome to the SDMB.

Who, exactly, is “the mighty zep?”

Led Zeppelin

Thank you, but with respect, I was asking our new friend mgnull. :slight_smile:

Princhester got it. It was nice to hear Don Henley even use the phrase on the Netflix documentery, although he said, “The Mighty Led Zeppelin”

sorry for the harsh posts

and yes, the word of the songwriter would generally be far more credible than 10th grade hillbillies

and my point was not that writing a song about writing a song is unreasonable

but that that is not what this song is about

zeppelin never admitted to the backward masking of “here’s to my sweet satan” either

and I’d love not for it to be true, but when you reverse the track, there it is…

the song is amazing regardless and even if Lamm is being totally honest rather than just responsibly not feeding into the whole drugs and rock paradigm that doesn’t preclude folks who’ve actually done acid to hear something completely different in the song and it also doesn’t preclude Lamm’s muse from channeling something into the song on top of what he thought he was writing about

for some odd reason it is only now in 2015 that i learned that Lamm has always claimed this was about writing a song, but Pete sure didn’t execute the phrase as 25 or 6, to 4. no, it’s phrased 25, or 6 to 4. maybe i’m reaching here, yep. definitely reaching, sorry

it’s kinda like maybe googling the meaning of Gimme Shelter and finding out that no, it’s not about vietnam and altimont because mick said it was about the barcelona bull runs and points to the lyric,

Ooh, see the fire is sweepin’
Our very street today
Burns like a red coal carpet
Mad bull lost it’s way

One of these is NOT like the other.

well, OK, but chill can you? don’t be harshing my mellow! :stuck_out_tongue:

I’d be happy if he’s just learn how to use the shift key to make little letters into big letters, as in capitalization. It’s just hard to believe anyone who lacks that talent.