# Chicago Reader vs. OpalCat

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 13, 1999, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051 "1999-11-13T04:02:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 1999, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/81 "1999-11-18T21:53:00Z")

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I always feel bad when I have to say this . . .

That was a joke. Not a good one, obviously, but an attempt. I don’t smoke either. I don’t believe I ever intimated feminism was corrolated with cigarette smoking. I just don’t like being called babe.

Sheesh.

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Jodi

_Fiat Justina_

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 1999, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/82 "1999-11-18T22:02:00Z")

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Yeah, but Jill, you _are_ a babe!

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 1999, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/83 "1999-11-18T22:02:00Z")

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BTW, that was not meant to imply in any way that Jodi is _not_ a babe – I don’t know either way.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 1999, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/84 "1999-11-18T22:32:00Z")

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DAVID – Right back atcha, ba-- er, sir. One of the glories of cyberspace is that true babe-dom cannot be analyzed. I may be, in the immortal words of Wayne (or was it Garth?), babe-a-licious, a veritable Baberaham Lincoln, or I may have trouble typing because I can’t line up the eye-holes on this bag I am required by law to wear over my head. The world may never know.

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**Author:** ![JillGat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JillGat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JillGat)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 1999, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/85 "1999-11-18T23:48:00Z")

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Getting uptight about the use of the term “babe”… I don’t know. Guess I wasn’t expecting a sense of humor? Sorry, Jodih!  
(And whew, on the smoking thing)

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 1999, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/86 "1999-11-19T00:07:00Z")

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Here’s the thing, Jill, and I REALLY don’t mean this as a flame. I just don’t like being called babe. How can I bring that to someone’s attention without acting like I’ve got a bee up my butt about it? Well, I can just politely state I don’t like it, without making a big deal about it, and I can try to make light of it. That was the attempt I was making. If I came off as “uptight” about it, then that’s unfortunate, but in my mind there has to be a middle ground between putting up with something that, for whatever reason, grates on my ears, and throwing a hissy fit over something truly minor. That’s the ground I was trying to stand on – a sort of “By the way, please don’t do that.” I _hope_ that’s how Mr. Zotti took it, but you never know, I guess.

The Deceased Equine should be along shortly to claim this silly little topic.

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**Author:** ![JillGat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JillGat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JillGat)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 1999, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/87 "1999-11-19T00:18:00Z")

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I was gonna apologize, then I realized this was the BBQ pit, and I’m not sure if that’s against the rules or not.

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 1999, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/88 "1999-11-19T03:35:00Z")

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I’m sorry, Jill, but you can’t do that here.

Oh, hell, now I apologized. Sorry about that.

Oh, shit!

Dammitdammitdammitdammitdammit!

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**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 1999, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/89 "1999-11-19T05:52:00Z")

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The correct way to apologize here, David, is as follows:

You sure ARE sorry… 😃

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Yer pal,  
Satan

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 1999, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/90 "1999-11-19T06:03:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Actually, I’m a bit of a dab hand at causality, but in this case it’s irrelevant. Show me the utility of hurling insults at someone you apparently want to maintain a professional or quasi-professional relationship with

Actually I have no interest in having a professional relationship with the people who run the Straight Dope. The TMHP is for the “little people” here and always has been. I used to think it would be nice to have a bit of a cooperative relationship with TSD, but anymore I really don’t care.

> [@](#):
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> This is the third case of outrage against the powers that be which has been attempted to be publicly tried in order to generate antipathy against the evil authority of this board (that I’m aware of since I’ve been here).

I simply responded to the threads that were created by other people. I had no intention of coming here and bringing it up, but when it had been brought up, I felt that I should say something.

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–  
O p a l C a t  
[www.opalcat.com](http://www.opalcat.com)

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 1999, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/91 "1999-11-19T15:00:00Z")

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Satan said:

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> The correct way to apologize here, David, is as follows:  
> You sure ARE sorry…

Yeah, but I already noted that Phaedrus’ post in the Flat Earth thread (the one where he whined about his life so we would go easy on him) was the sorriest post I’d ever seen. So now somebody would really have to best that to be truly sorry – and I just can’t see that happening any time soon.

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**Author:** ![Deceased\_Equine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Deceased\_Equine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deceased_Equine)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 1999, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/92 "1999-11-19T15:53:00Z")

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Ouch! ow!

Like so many others, I wanted to have the last word.

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 1999, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/93 "1999-11-19T15:54:00Z")

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Ok, so let’s hear the last word: Are Jill and Jodi babes?

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**Author:** ![Strainger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strainger/32/244_2.png) [@Strainger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strainger)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 1999, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/94 "1999-11-19T16:43:00Z")

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What Jodi failed to mention is that she much prefers to be called “sweetass.”

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 1999, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/95 "1999-11-19T17:58:00Z")

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I thought she said it was “Badass”?

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 1999, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/96 "1999-11-20T02:27:00Z")

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STRAINGER – Shhhh! Jeez, one rum-soaked night in a bar in Kingstown, I let an old nickname slip, and you can’t keep quiet about it. What ever happened to honor among Methodists?

DAVID – Badass is my alter-ego, who only emerges when Commissioner Gorden switches on the Badass signal. But don’t tell anyone – it’s a secret.

JILLGAT – I would accept your non-apology, because you didn’t offer it so nicely, but this _is_ the Pit, so I won’t. Plus it wasn’t necessary (really), but it’s the thought you didn’t have that counts.

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 1999, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/97 "1999-11-20T13:56:00Z")

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The badass signal, eh? I’m just trying to picture what that looks like…

😉

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**Author:** ![JillGat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JillGat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JillGat)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 1999, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/98 "1999-11-20T17:07:00Z")

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[[JILLGAT – I would accept your non-apology, because you didn’t offer it so nicely, but this is the Pit, so I won’t. Plus it wasn’t necessary (really), but it’s the thought you didn’t have that counts.]]

Hah, there ya go. If you were here, I’d buy you a beer for that one, babe.

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 1999, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/99 "1999-11-21T06:32:00Z")

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Or is it that you wouldn’t buy her a beer?

I’m soooooo foncused…

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 1999, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicago-reader-vs-opalcat/3051/100 "1999-11-20T21:00:00Z")

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Say good-night, Gracie.

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