# "Chicago's Magnificent Mile Erupts In Overnight Looting, Violence" **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 10, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736 "2020-08-10T17:40:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/21 "2020-08-12T16:58:47Z")
It’s a damn shame nobody ever invented insurance. That said, arson is a _serious_ problem, in my opinion on a whole different level from looting. Looting is bad, and looters should be arrested. People committing arson should be tackled by (other?) protesters and handed over. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/22 "2020-08-12T17:02:51Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > I hate to say it, but the military approach of shooting looters is probably the answer. You wouldn’t have to shoot many. It would stop pretty quickly. Right now, they are basically getting away with this stuff. I have a feeling it would have the opposite effect and basically start an all-out war here in the city. Arrest them; prosecute them; do what you can, but as soon as you start killing them, I see things getting far worse before they get better. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/23 "2020-08-12T17:24:19Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > It’s more than just property, a lot more. > [@madsircool](#): > > Way to ignore the countless hours that business owners pour into their business. Just to lose almost everything in a few minutes. And you would kill people to protect that? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/24 "2020-08-12T17:34:17Z")
> [@Mr\_Downtown](#): > > have a lot of trouble seeing this as have-nots seeking reparations from the haves. There was one of the “organizers” on TV saying EXACTLY “They’ve been looting us for years; it’s time we loot them!” I’m sorry, I don’t see this as “drawing attention to their plight”; it was direct criminal behavior to enrich themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/25 "2020-08-12T19:05:41Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > And you would kill people to protect that? Tell me when you’d do anything to stop me. 1. I pull up to your house in a van with 3 cronies. We run up to your porch, cut the locks on your family bicycles and load them in the van. 2. Not yet? Okay, we jimmy your garage, hot wire your car, and one of the henchman drives it away. 3. Not yet? The 3 of us left begin to break our way into your house where your wife and children are. Need I go on? ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats2)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/26 "2020-08-12T19:16:50Z")
Since the supposed cause of this whole night of looting was a jumbled tale of a police shooting, how do you suppose the wholesale shooting of those looters on live TV would resonate? What would be the results? I can tell certain people get a little shiver of glee at the idea of miscreants getting shot, but as a practical matter, it has its drawbacks. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/27 "2020-08-12T19:20:28Z")
Do anything, or do _anything?_ One of these two scenarios is true. Take your pick. A) At step 1, I’d call the police. At step 2 I’d take my family out the back door and run. B) At step 1 I’d shoot you all in rapid succession with my handy chaingun, which I’d employ as you started to approach the porch. Then I’d come out and finish you each off with my shotgun, first with a shotgun blast to each of your crotches, followed by a shot to each of your foreheads. Then I’d take your keys, set your car rolling down the street, and shoot it with my RPG. Then I’d call the police and report a successful home defense. Reasonable reactions all. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/28 "2020-08-12T19:25:32Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > Not yet? The 3 of us left begin to break our way into your house where your wife and children are. Show me where this occurred in the incident in question. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/29 "2020-08-12T19:32:13Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > And you would kill people to protect that? Looter lives matter? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/30 "2020-08-13T01:48:39Z")
This makes a lot of sense to me. A bunch of outsiders wants to stir up trouble in Englewood. The people who actually live there said “hell no”. > **[Chicago locals fight off protesters and shut down BLM rally to prevent looting](https://nypost.com/2020/08/12/chicago-locals-fight-off-protesters-and-shut-down-blm-rally/)** > > A largely black group of Chicago residents infuriated by looters blighting the city pushed back against a Black Lives Matter protest. As access was again blocked to downtown overnight to stop more … I can’t get quote tags to work here. 😏 > [@](#): > > The Englewood locals resisted, kicking out the protesters from BLM and groups campaigning to defund the police, [according to Fox 32] > “If you ain’t from Englewood, get the f–k out of here,” longtime local resident Darryl Smith shouted at protesters during tense confrontations. > “Y’all don’t come out when a kid gets shot. Y’all come out when it’s got something to do with the f—ing police,” he yelled through a loudspeaker, [according to the Chicago Sun-Times](https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2020/8/11/21364192/loop-access-restriction-chicago). > “If your issue is with the police, take it to 35th and Michigan,” he shouted, referring to Chicago police HQ. “Don’t come in Englewood with it.” ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats2)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/31 "2020-08-13T01:52:06Z")
I like people from Englewood. They got guts. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/32 "2020-08-13T01:52:16Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I can’t get quote tags to work here. Put each quote tag on its own separate line. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/33 "2020-08-13T01:55:27Z")
Edit window timed out. I’ll try doing the tags on separate lines next time. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/34 "2020-08-13T02:14:31Z")
“A largely black group…” Don’t let the **New York** Post tell you about Chicago. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/35 "2020-08-13T02:18:08Z")
They quoted and linked the Chicago Sun Times. here’s their article. > **[Longtime Englewood residents push back against police reform protesters](https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/8/11/21364438/longtime-englewood-residents-push-back-against-police-reform-protesters)** > > A rally was to be held outside the CPD’s Englewood District station Tuesday evening, but locals were upset that the plans were not shared with them ahead of time. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/36 "2020-08-13T05:01:35Z")
Let’s see if you can find the differences in those two articles … ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/37 "2020-08-13T09:48:14Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Looter lives matter? I gather you’re not a fan of due process. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/38 "2020-08-13T11:37:19Z")
I’m thankful the sick kids and their families weren’t hurt. This has to be a new low. I think Chicago is going to lose millions in tourism. There’s no way I’d consider visiting right now. > **[Ronald McDonald House Near Lurie Children's Hospital Was Among Looters' Targets](https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/ronald-mcdonald-house-near-lurie-childrens-hospital-was-among-looters-targets/)** > > The Ronald McDonald House in Streeterville was among the establishments targeted during looting in Chicago early Monday morning. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/39 "2020-08-13T12:13:04Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > Show me where this occurred in the incident in question. It didn’t, but I never said it did because that wasn’t the point of my example. My point is, where do you draw the line in general? These organized “looter gangs” are doing a lot more damage than just the stolen property. They are destroying businesses and livelihoods. They are forcing businesses to move out of areas where the residents badly need the goods and services they provide. They significantly add to our increasingly lawless social woes. They are also doing tremendous damage to the just protests and causes because racists use these highly publicized and destructive incidents as fuel to promote their racist stereotypes of minorities. “See? They’re all violent and destructive. Throw em in jail, etc.” ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736/40 "2020-08-13T12:21:23Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I’m thankful the sick kids and their families weren’t hurt. This has to be a new low. > I think Chicago is going to lose millions in tourism. There’s no way I’d consider visiting right now. It’s not like the tourism industry is doing well anywhere, anyhow. But yeah, that’s an example of purely criminal behavior. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chicagos-magnificent-mile-erupts-in-overnight-looting-violence/917736.md?page=3)