# Chick-Fil-A Appreciation Day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 1, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096 "2012-08-01T19:42:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/161 "2012-08-02T04:49:40Z")

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Their brand is now “that controversial chicken place.”

I think most restaurant chains would probably prefer something like “the place with good hamburgers” or “the place I like to take my kids.”

We’ll see how it plays out long-term, but my _suspicion_ is that overall this will not be good for business.

Personally I could care less; I’m ensuring that my own dollars aren’t going to anti-gay hate groups via Chick-Fil-A, so I’m satisfied.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/162 "2012-08-02T04:56:24Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> Their brand is now “that controversial chicken place.”

To us, that’s their brand.

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> I think most restaurant chains would probably prefer something like “the place with good hamburgers” or “the place I like to take my kids.”

To the anti-SSM crowd this might be their brand.

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> We’ll see how it plays out long-term, but my _suspicion_ is that overall this will not be good for business.

I wish I had your faith in people, in capitalism, etc.

> [@](#):
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> Personally I could care less; I’m ensuring that my own dollars aren’t going to anti-gay hate groups via Chick-Fil-A, so I’m satisfied.

I only ate there once a long time ago, so it wasn’t a hard choice for me.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/163 "2012-08-02T09:14:18Z")

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There were huge lines at my local CfA outside of Philadelphia. (Can a chain store, as a practical matter runout of food? What are their stockpiles like? This sort of crowd would test that.)

There is only one thing to do, all pro-gay-marriage people must go to their local CfA NEXT Wednesday and buy even more chicken. That will show them!

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/164 "2012-08-02T09:25:05Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Yes.
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> Homophobia is not a mental illness. No one who uses the term intends it to be understood to be a mental illness. While it was originally coined to describe a pathology, its usage has diverged from that definition (which, I believe, is no longer accepted in clinical circles, although I could be mistaken on that point) over thirty years ago.

Then the powers that be (whoever has the oomph to do it) should come up with a new term. Homophobia is not a very good descriptive term.

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**Author:** ![JLRogers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce73a5/32.png) [@JLRogers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JLRogers)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/165 "2012-08-02T10:14:28Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> Then the powers that be (whoever has the oomph to do it) should come up with a new term. Homophobia is not a very good descriptive term.

Homophobes literally fear homosexuals. I’m not sure how you could be confused by this. It has been very clear to the rest of us for years. 😕

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/166 "2012-08-02T11:22:25Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I find myself weighing the options, and I can’t figure out which is more likely; that the bomb threat was phoned in by a pro-LGBT person upset that C-F-A appeared to be doing well out of this kerfuffle, or somebody at the back of the line who wanted that line to go away quickly so he could get his sandwich.
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> Either way: what a dolt.

I smell a [Wounded Gazelle Gambit](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WoundedGazelleGambit), myself.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/167 "2012-08-02T12:43:02Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> I can tell you that I have never eaten at Chick-Fil-A. Mostly cuz I like burger places and when I get to eat fast food once in a long while I go for Wendy’s. But my wife has been bugging me about eating chicken at those occasions, and from this discussion of Chick-Fil-A lately I saw that their food is actually pretty good. So my next outing to fast food place will be to Chick-Fil-A. And if I like it, they may displace Wendy’s.

Well, I’ll add your anecdote to my own anecdote. Let’s see… zero, plus zero… carry the two…

Seriously, though, since nobody seems to know the actual bottom line I guess we’ll wait for the actual impact to be measurable.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/168 "2012-08-02T13:21:48Z")

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Personally I think that all anti-SSM people should show their support for Chick-fil-A by eating there every meal every day.

And in three to five years, when they’re all dead of heart attacks or diabetes, the pro-SSM vote will dominate. Winning!

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/169 "2012-08-02T13:47:57Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Each person with that opinion has their own reasons for having it, which is why the opinion itself is reasonable. But legality has a big effect on when it stops being legal

Unbelievable. I feel like Bill Cosby in an episode of _Kids Say the Darndest Things_.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/170 "2012-08-02T13:50:41Z")

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Update: Dan Savage is proposing a new definition for “Chick-fil-A” in [this week’s column](http://www.avclub.com/articles/august-1-2012,83186/).

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> Programming note: “Chick-fil-A” is an obvious synonym for “pegging.” I mean, obviously, right? I shall now use Chick-fil-A in a sentence: “Her boyfriend’s kinda homophobic, but I hear he loves Chick-fil-A.”

So Chick-fil-A could lead to a bit of santorum…

Wonder it this will suggestion will be similary successful.

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/171 "2012-08-02T14:02:02Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> There were huge lines at my local CfA outside of Philadelphia. (Can a chain store, as a practical matter runout of food? What are their stockpiles like? This sort of crowd would test that.)
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> There is only one thing to do, all pro-gay-marriage people must go to their local CfA NEXT Wednesday and buy even more chicken. That will show them!

It was reported that the Chick-Fil-A in Prattville, AL ran out of chicken yesterday.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/172 "2012-08-02T14:09:31Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> Update: Dan Savage is proposing a new definition for “Chick-fil-A”

Dan needs to stop being so male-oriented (about gay sex in general, not about his own preferences). “Chick-fil-A” sounds more like a lesbian sex act of some sort to me - maybe a three-way (for that whole “chick sandwich” thing). It’s not all about the butt, [del]Bob[/del] Dan.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/173 "2012-08-02T14:39:01Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> There is only one thing to do, all pro-gay-marriage people must go to their local CfA NEXT Wednesday and buy even more chicken. That will show them!

I don’t know why more pro-gay-marriage people didn’t get in line with the anti-gay-marriage people at the drive-thru, wait patiently, get up to the speaker, say, “I changed my mind, I don’t want anything,” and drive around to get in line again. Clog up the line with people buying nothing, make it difficult for people who want to give their money to the hatemongers. When the line gets too long and unwieldy, people won’t be able to get in and buy stuff.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/174 "2012-08-02T14:41:13Z")

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> [@Max\_Torque](#):
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> I don’t know why more pro-gay-marriage people didn’t get in line with the anti-gay-marriage people at the drive-thru, wait patiently, get up to the speaker, say, “I changed my mind, I don’t want anything,” and drive around to get in line again. Clog up the line with people buying nothing, make it difficult for people who want to give their money to the hatemongers. When the line gets too long and unwieldy, people won’t be able to get in and buy stuff.

I can’t answer for everyone, but my response to this would be: Because people are allowed to spend money however they want to. If people want to line up around the block for Chick-Fil-A, good for them. I hope the warm glow of bigotry gives them a great night’s sleep.

I prefer not to spend my money there, which is what I’ll continue to do. I don’t need to impede anyone else while doing so.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/175 "2012-08-02T14:41:58Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Dan needs to stop being so male-oriented (about gay sex in general, not about his own preferences). “Chick-fil-A” sounds more like a lesbian sex act of some sort to me - maybe a three-way (for that whole “chick sandwich” thing). It’s not all about the butt, [del]Bob[/del] Dan.

“Pegging” as I (an old-school vanilla guy who reads the column with a bit of :eek:😕:dubious: each week) understand it is NOT male-oriented. It is a woman using a strap-on to diddle her male partner anally. I think he just parsed out the name: Chick Fill A, e.g., girl fills her guy’s…well, you get the picture.

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**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/176 "2012-08-02T15:59:22Z")

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There’s a post originally from 4chan making the rounds on the internet about this whole thing:

[![](https://i.imgur.com/TfR1i.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/TfR1i.png)

[spoiler]Eat your chicken. That’s right. Enjoy it. Chow down. Get seconds and eat some more. Savour every bite. But before you swallow, look at it. Get a real good look at that fried bird on bread. Take a moment to really take it in.

Cuz this is it. Your church leaders failed you. Your politicians ignore you. The media laughs at your demise and mocks you daily. Because you made gay sex your focus. All that insecurity about the life you chose, the company you keep, the future your children will choose. And it comes to this. A chicken sandwich. This is all the power you have left. A fast food sandwich.

And you’re banking all the power you have left on expressing yourself through an ephemeral media event. In two weeks no one will remember this, how you stood in a line for a sandwich in the hopes your little obsession might be noticed. And then it’s over.

The future is coming for you, for your family. There is no stopping it. You cannot resist the inevitable, you cannot depend on your church or politicians to do anything but to keep selling you out. All you have left is this sandwich. Same-sex marriage will be a reality any day soon, like gays in the military; the legal wheels are already in motion. Gays in your children’s schools. Gays on television and gays in the church and government. Because nobody with any power actually cares what gays do. Only you.[/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/177 "2012-08-02T16:14:37Z")

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> [@PandaBear77](#):
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> I went, ate the hell outta some chicken and I’m gonna do it again. I refuse to be told where and when I can spend my own money and if people want to judge me because of where I shop, fuck 'em.

I’m sure you would have gladly patronized Lester Maddox’s restaurant back in the 60s…which, oddly enough, was famous for it’s fried chicken, as well.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/178 "2012-08-02T16:21:42Z")

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That’s so great, and there’s no reason why it should be in spoiler tags. The bigots need to read it.

> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#):
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> There’s a post originally from 4chan making the rounds on the internet about this whole thing:
> 
> [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/TfR1i.png)
> 
> > [@](#):
> >
> > Eat your chicken. That’s right. Enjoy it. Chow down. Get seconds and eat some more. Savour every bite. But before you swallow, look at it. Get a real good look at that fried bird on bread. Take a moment to really take it in.
> > 
> > Cuz this is it. Your church leaders failed you. Your politicians ignore you. The media laughs at your demise and mocks you daily. Because you made gay sex your focus. All that insecurity about the life you chose, the company you keep, the future your children will choose. And it comes to this. A chicken sandwich. This is all the power you have left. A fast food sandwich.
> > 
> > And you’re banking all the power you have left on expressing yourself through an ephemeral media event. In two weeks no one will remember this, how you stood in a line for a sandwich in the hopes your little obsession might be noticed. And then it’s over.
> > 
> > The future is coming for you, for your family. There is no stopping it. You cannot resist the inevitable, you cannot depend on your church or politicians to do anything but to keep selling you out. All you have left is this sandwich. Same-sex marriage will be a reality any day soon, like gays in the military; the legal wheels are already in motion. Gays in your children’s schools. Gays on television and gays in the church and government. Because nobody with any power actually cares what gays do. Only you.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/179 "2012-08-02T16:44:29Z")

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> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#):
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> It was reported that the Chick-Fil-A in Prattville, AL ran out of chicken yesterday.

But did they have bread bowls?

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-appreciation-day/630096/180 "2012-08-02T17:04:08Z")

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> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#):
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> Why do pro-CFA people think this a free speech issue?

Because it kind of is.

The left royally fucked up the issue starting with Boston Mayor Menino. Had he kept his big mouth shut, the whole mess would NOT be a free speech issue. But Big Mouth could not keep it shut, and he said some things that he probably really regrets now. By threatening CFA over Boston licensing he crossed the line. As a government official it absolutely is a free speech issue if a mayor threatens a private entity over opinions expressed. Menino messed up, and he messed up bad.

His actions have allowed CFA to deflect honest criticism. And CFA isn’t wrong to use his idiocy for their own gain. He didn’t have to fuck up, but he did… to CFA’s benefit.

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