# Chick-Fil-A President comes out swinging against gay marriage

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**Created:** [July 19, 2012, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689 "2012-07-19T05:48:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/1 "2012-07-19T05:48:54Z")

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Can’t see this ending well for them.

[Dan Cathy, Chick-Fil-A President, On Anti-Gay Stance: ‘Guilty As Charged’](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/dan-cathy-chick-fil-a-president-anti-gay_n_1680984.html)

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> Though Chick-fil-A has come under considerable fire for its documented support of anti-gay Christian organizations, officials for the fast food chain have remained mostly tight-lipped about the controversy – until now.
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> In a new interview with the Baptist Press, Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy – the son of company founder S. Truett Cathy – addresses what the publication describes as his franchise’s “support of the traditional family.”
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> Cathy’s somewhat glib response: “Well, guilty as charged.”
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> He went on to note, “We are very much supportive of the family – the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that…we know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles.”
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> Cathy then reiterated his stance during an appearance on “The Ken Coleman Show,” Good as You blogger Jeremy Hooper reported.
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> “I think we are inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say ‘we know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage’ and I pray God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about,” Cathy said in that interview, which can be heard here.

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**Author:** ![D-bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@D-bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D-bear)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/2 "2012-07-19T06:29:37Z")

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Wow! The comments in that article  
[and this one](http://www.advocate.com/business/2012/07/17/chick-fil-coo-dan-cathy-officially-comes-out-antigay?fb_comment_id=fbc_10151035017779483_24114388_10151035537479483)  
[and this one](http://www.advocate.com/business/2012/07/18/ed-helms-star-hangover-and-office-joins-chick-fil-boycott)  
are pretty intense…

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**Author:** ![LeeshaJoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LeeshaJoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LeeshaJoy)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/3 "2012-07-19T07:12:25Z")

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Almost makes me wish there was a Chik-Fil-A in my area so that I could boycott it.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/4 "2012-07-19T07:28:37Z")

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Maybe we could set up some kind of boycott exchange. Someone who lives in the south agrees not to eat at Chik-Fil-A, and you in return agree not to patronize a business in your area that they find morally reprehensible. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/5 "2012-07-19T07:37:35Z")

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Biblical definition of marriage and family? Did Mr. Chick-Filly ever read the Old Testament? Just look at the family arrangements of, say, Jacob (Israel), David, and Solomon.

Really something for every good Christian to emulate, there.

[sub]ETA: Especially that family-friendly story about David and that Chick Filly he saw bathing on the next door rooftop.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/6 "2012-07-19T07:44:55Z")

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[This seems oddly appropriate.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO-msplukrw)

“I’m a top.”

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/7 "2012-07-19T07:48:08Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Biblical definition of marriage and family? Did Mr. Chick-Filly ever read the Old Testament? Just look at the family arrangements of, say, Jacob (Israel), David, and Solomon.
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> Really something for every good Christian to emulate, there.

That’s why the Biblical ideal is given in Genesis 2: 23-25 and reinforced by Jesus in Matthew 19: 4-6. It’s very apparent that the polygamy of Jacob, David, and Solomon were the results of human failure & did not have good results.

Everything in the Bible is there for Christians as examples- but not always good examples.

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**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/8 "2012-07-19T08:14:50Z")

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Being Jewish, I vote the polygamy of Jacob was extremely successful.

Also…Chick Fil A is yummy and they treat you so nicely!

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/9 "2012-07-19T10:10:22Z")

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The Bible? David and Jonathan came pretty damn close to a same-sex marriage.

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**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/10 "2012-07-19T10:40:04Z")

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> “We are very much supportive of the family – the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are **married to our first wives**. We give God thanks for that…we know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles.”

I _assume_ they mean one each.

So does this mean they’re against divorce too?

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**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/11 "2012-07-19T10:54:11Z")

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In other news, well known religiously led American business has religious views in a free-speech and freedom-of-religion state.

Gasp! :o

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/12 "2012-07-19T11:16:44Z")

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Still better than Mitt Romney, at least this guy owns his bullshit view.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/13 "2012-07-19T11:16:50Z")

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“Eat moar chicken.” \> “Choke your chicken” \> chicken = cock \> “Eat moar [del]chicken[/del] cock.”

Hmm, I think I may be on to something here…

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**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/14 "2012-07-19T11:30:45Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> Still better than Mitt Romney, at least this guy owns his bullshit view.

I think it’s awesome, how in the past, people would get this type of ostracizing and vitriol for espousing an idea that was NEW, or DIFFERENT. Something that was not totally accepted by society at large.

Now it’s anyone who DOESN’T accept the new view, anyone who wants to stick with what they’ve known their whole life, who gets the ostracism and vitriol.

It’s not like the guy’s waging a campaign or anything. An interviewer asked him, he answered. In an incredibly PC way too - citing his own family values, and the fact that he’s living his life according to a set of principles. The source of the set of principles is not open to debate obviously, because that’s another freedom we have in this country, living according to any set of principles that doesn’t cause one to infringe on other people’s rights. And he’s not.

Those principles are different than yours, but he’s not forcing them on you, or suggesting that the government legislate any of them. He’s just admitting that he’s got them, and why. That’s a damn good thing. Now you can write him a letter, and attempt to persuade him to live by some other set of principles, and can dismantle his belief system in a logical way. If he never told you, you wouldn’t be able to do that.

Or instead we could all get up in arms and cry about it on the internet, and suggest it means things it doesn’t, like that his company will now fail. Which it won’t. Chicken is yummy.

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/15 "2012-07-19T11:43:51Z")

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> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#):
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> Those principles are different than yours, but he’s not forcing them on you, \*\*or suggesting that the government legislate any of them. \*\*

(bolding mine)

[Wrong.](http://www.advocate.com/business/2012/07/02/chick-fil-donates-2-mil-antigay-groups)

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/16 "2012-07-19T11:48:10Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Those principles are different than yours, but he’s not forcing them on you, or suggesting that the government legislate any of them. He’s just admitting that he’s got them, and why. That’s a damn good thing.

I agree, but it’s still a striking contrast to Mitt, in my opinion.

Hey, I have no problem with him holding or espousing his views. I don’t share them, but I don’t mind that he feels differently.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/17 "2012-07-19T11:53:35Z")

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He’s free to hold and express those views, and contribute significant money to groups that work to bring about changes in our laws to enforce those views. I’m entitled to point out his attempts to turn that opinion into the law/keep it the law, and to avoid giving him any more money that he can use to carry this out.

Besides, he also apparently thinks he [owns the trademark on “Eat Mor(e) \_\_\_\_\_\_”](http://eatmorekale.com/press.html) and assumes people can’t tell the difference between kale and chicken. That doesn’t say much about his product. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/18 "2012-07-19T11:56:09Z")

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You gay guys were already boycotting them (and Dominos) when they were obstructing abortion rights, because it’s not just about your own ox being gored, but rather social justice in general, right?

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**Author:** ![JLRogers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce73a5/32.png) [@JLRogers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JLRogers)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/19 "2012-07-19T11:58:25Z")

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I’m a straight, married guy with a kid who has been boycotting dominos and chick-fil-a for years because social justice is a crucial issue. What do I win?

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/20 "2012-07-19T11:59:57Z")

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Missed the edit window: Straight gal, boycotted them by default because they weren’t here in Chicago until recently, never liked their political contributions anyway.

**JLRogers** : Some kale? 😃

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