# Chick-Fil-A President comes out swinging against gay marriage

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 19, 2012, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689 "2012-07-19T05:48:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/241 "2012-07-29T17:47:39Z")

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> [@monavis](#):
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> I got the information by the media…

No you didn’t.

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**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/242 "2012-07-30T12:40:30Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Do you know of any specific instance where Chik-Fil-A hasn’t served gay people because they were gay? That’s what you were “told” isn’t it? That Chik-Fil-A didn’t want to serve gay people? Apparently, whoever told you that doesn’t know what they are talking about. Does that matter to you?
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> The owner of the company has his own personal views. You’ve stated that, “What a person does in their private life (as long as it isn’t harming another ) is non of my business”. Do you still believe that?

Yes, I believe a person can be a bigot if they so choose, and there are many people who use the Bible for that, but forget the passage where Jesus is quoted as saying, ‘He who puts away his wife and takes another commits adultry, and he who marries one who has been put away commits adultry’. In such an instance it would mean the idea of marriage being between one man and one woman is rather a whole different story, There was a time (not too many years ago) that people who got divorced were considered a plague on the Family. I still don’t consider what some one else does in their personal life is my business unless it is doing harm to another person (or even an animal) !

There are many passages they seem to forget like,Sell what you have,give it to the poor then come and follow me. Judge not lest you be judged. Let who is among you with out sin cast the first stone. Seems to me like the Pharisee’s that Jesus( they claim to follow) despised!

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**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/243 "2012-07-30T12:46:21Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> No you didn’t.

I beg to differ. I know what I heard, and one of the reason’s I put this on the Dope was to find other opinions and what other’s have heard. I know that the main complaint was from people who decided not to patronize Chick Fil A for that reason. That too is their right. and Yes, as I stated earlier he can be bigoted about anything, that is the American way. One can think for themselves, right, or wrong, and that includes me!

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/244 "2012-07-30T14:45:53Z")

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> [@monavis](#):
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> I beg to differ. I know what I heard, and one of the reason’s I put this on the Dope was to find other opinions and what other’s have heard. I know that the main complaint was from people who decided not to patronize Chick Fil A for that reason. That too is their right. and Yes, as I stated earlier he can be bigoted about anything, that is the American way. One can think for themselves, right, or wrong, and that includes me!

No, you read a report that Chick-fil-A’s owner made some stupid comments regarding gay marriage. You clearly do not, in fact, “know what you heard”. You’re confused.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/245 "2012-07-30T15:21:20Z")

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**monavis** , I’m not sure you’re clear on what folks are criticizing you for.

You said you heard a “news broadcast about the Chick Fil A situation where the owners (or managers) didn’t want to serve gay people.”

As far as I or other folks can tell, no news broadcast has said that the owners didn’t want to serve gay people. If a broadcast said that, the broadcast was almost certainly wrong to say that.

The owners of Chik-Fil-A have never said anything about serving gay people. They’ve said they don’t want to let gay people get married (paraphrased). These are two different things.

So either you misremembered the broadcast, or the reporters got it wrong, or else you’ve got a big piece of this puzzle that nobody else has, and we’d love a cite.

Do you see the difference between what you said, and what others have said?

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**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2012, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/246 "2012-07-31T12:06:23Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> No, you read a report that Chick-fil-A’s owner made some stupid comments regarding gay marriage. You clearly do not, in fact, “know what you heard”. You’re confused.

My, I am so glad you know what I heard, even though you are most likely hundreds if not thousands of mile from me. And that I don’t know what I heard, but you do, is so remarkable!

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**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2012, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/247 "2012-07-31T12:20:32Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> **monavis** , I’m not sure you’re clear on what folks are criticizing you for.
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> You said you heard a “news broadcast about the Chick Fil A situation where the owners (or managers) didn’t want to serve gay people.”
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> As far as I or other folks can tell, no news broadcast has said that the owners didn’t want to serve gay people. If a broadcast said that, the broadcast was almost certainly wrong to say that.
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> The owners of Chik-Fil-A have never said anything about serving gay people. They’ve said they don’t want to let gay people get married (paraphrased). These are two different things.
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> So either you misremembered the broadcast, or the reporters got it wrong, or else you’ve got a big piece of this puzzle that nobody else has, and we’d love a cite.
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> Do you see the difference between what you said, and what others have said?

Thank you, it wasn’t a newscaster himself, but one of the people who said they would boycott Chick Fil A because of his comments, there was a discussion, and that perhaps I had taken the fact that people were up in arms over it. I know there are a lot of bigots, and I feel that they can be bigoted if they choose, it would not stop me from going to their store, Just as I go to stores that owners think the Bible is the word of God and think anyone who thinks differenly than them are wrong. My point of asking was to get what I had heard straightend out, that was why I didn’t post on Great debates. It was my understanding that the owners and managers were going to’ not’ serve gays, and I also wondered if they would know if a couple were married or not. I felt the people I had heard discussing it were telling what they had experienced. and I admit I could be wrong about how I interpreted what they had said.  
To me it would be the same as only serving people who were not married and living together, weither they were gay or straight.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/248 "2012-07-31T21:18:11Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> Can’t see this ending well for them.
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> [Dan Cathy, Chick-Fil-A President, On Anti-Gay Stance: ‘Guilty As Charged’](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/dan-cathy-chick-fil-a-president-anti-gay_n_1680984.html)

He has a right to be wrong. He has a right to a view with which you and I disagree. He has the responsibility to accept the consequences.

Isn’t it better that he’s able to be open about it?

> [@kayt](#):
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> I don’t think directing profits from a company to a political agenda is a “personal” view.

If it’s his company, surely there’s no difference?

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> And I do think it’s my business to direct my dollars someplace else.

Quite right too.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/249 "2012-09-20T12:43:41Z")

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[They have publicly reversed their position.](http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/chick-fil-funding-anti-gay-groups-175154249.html?_esi=1)

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**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/250 "2012-09-20T13:02:12Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [They have publicly reversed their position.](http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/chick-fil-funding-anti-gay-groups-175154249.html?_esi=1)

What do you mean “publicly”? So far as I can see, other people are saying Chic-Fil-A are changing their stance. Chick-Fil-A has release no public statement that I’m aware of that addresses this directly and the purported memo mentioned in that story has yet to be given to the restaurants. I hope this is true, but so far it looks like the Chick-Fil-A people are kind of keeping it on the DL.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/251 "2012-09-20T15:19:30Z")

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As I understand it, they haven’t reversed their position as much as they decided to make their position private. That is, they want to be perceived as neutral.  
In a sense it is movement away from their previous position of vocal support of stuff, but not really a “reverse.”

What I want to see is Chik-fil-A try to organize another feeding frenzy. They could keep flip-flopping their views once a month and make a killing!

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