# Chick-Fil-A President comes out swinging against gay marriage **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 19, 2012, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689 "2012-07-19T05:48:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JLRogers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce73a5/32.png) [@JLRogers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JLRogers)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/21 "2012-07-19T12:01:38Z")
Suits. Kale is delicious! ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/22 "2012-07-19T12:04:07Z")
Damn good chicken. ---
**Author:** ![JLRogers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce73a5/32.png) [@JLRogers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JLRogers)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/23 "2012-07-19T12:07:51Z")
And hot! I like to think Agent Cooper would stand in solidarity with an oppressed minority. I _know_ Albert would. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/24 "2012-07-19T12:48:50Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > Now it’s anyone who DOESN’T accept the new view, anyone who wants to stick with what they’ve known their whole life, who gets the ostracism and vitriol. And so he should. His position is much the same as someone in the past supporting racial segregation; pure bigotry, deserving only condemnation. > [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > In an incredibly PC way too - citing his own family values, and the fact that he’s living his life according to a set of principles. “Family values” has been a code phrase for supporting bigotry and tyranny for a long time. And his “principles” are hatred, and basing what passes for his morality on a book of myths written by barbarians. He might as well announce he’s basing his positions on _Mein Kampf_ as announcing he’s basing it on the Bible. > [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > The source of the set of principles is not open to debate obviously, because that’s another freedom we have in this country, living according to any set of principles that doesn’t cause one to infringe on other people’s rights. Of course it’s open to debate. The law doesn’t forbid people from disagreeing with him. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/25 "2012-07-19T13:03:27Z")
> [@Farmer\_Jane](#): > > Being Jewish, I vote the polygamy of Jacob was extremely successful. And Abraham. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/26 "2012-07-19T13:15:30Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > You gay guys were already boycotting them (and Dominos) when they were obstructing abortion rights, because it’s not just about your own ox being gored, but rather social justice in general, right? I’m not gay (NTTAWWT), but if I had known about those two companies obstructing abortion rights, I would have boycotted them for that, as well. Social justice is social justice. Was your comment supposed to be some sort of Gotcha Ya? ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/27 "2012-07-19T13:22:24Z")
What a moron. They want to triple the number of stores they have, and he goes a d says something like that? That’s some powerful stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/28 "2012-07-19T13:24:16Z")
I call bullshit on “the biblical definition of the family unit.” Show me in the Bible where it says “The family unit shall be defined as…” “and we are married to our first wives” — well, I’ll give you credit for that at least. You’d get bonus hypocrisy points if you were campaigning against gay marriage on biblical grounds while being divorced and remarried. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/29 "2012-07-19T13:26:00Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > The Bible? David and Jonathan came pretty damn close to a same-sex marriage. Dude, that was a bromance. ---
**Author:** ![kmshrader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b782af/32.png) [@kmshrader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kmshrader)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/30 "2012-07-19T13:39:10Z")
I **do** have a Chick-Fil-A in my area (two, actually), and haven’t eaten there for years. Besides making another public stink, I’m not sure what this article changes. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/31 "2012-07-19T13:44:42Z")
Does C-F-A have any gay employees? ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/32 "2012-07-19T13:56:31Z")
In my area, nearly all of the fast food workers are black. But at Chick Fil a, they are nearly all white, Stepford looking kids. Makes you wonder. And no matter what you say to these kids when ordering, they always reply “my pleasure.” It’s creepy. I want my fast food served to me by a sullen, stoned little punk. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/33 "2012-07-19T13:59:30Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > In my area, nearly all of the fast food workers are black. But at Chick Fil a, they are nearly all white, Stepford looking kids. Makes you wonder. And no matter what you say to these kids when ordering, they always reply “my pleasure.” It’s creepy. … :eek: You know what, that’s exactly the way it is in my area, as well. Burger King, Wendy’s, Popeye’s… all mostly black employees. Chick-fil-a… I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a black employee in either of the two stores around here. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/34 "2012-07-19T14:00:53Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > … :eek: > > You know what, that’s exactly the way it is in my area, as well. > > Burger King, Wendy’s, Popeye’s… all mostly black employees. > > Chick-fil-a… I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a black employee in either of the two stores around here. Yep. I’ve heard it’s like this at most of their restaurants. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/35 "2012-07-19T14:08:45Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > I think it’s awesome, how in the past, people would get this type of ostracizing and vitriol for espousing an idea that was NEW, or DIFFERENT. Something that was not totally accepted by society at large. You’re absolutely right. Women who demanded the vote were [brutalized](http://www.counterfire.org/index.php/articles/75-our-history/7697-the-suffragettes-black-friday-and-the-two-types-of-window-smashing). Black people who demanded equal rights were [murdered](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_civil_rights_workers_murders). Gay activists showing pride were [beaten](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_LGBT_people#Attacks_on_gay_pride_parades). > [@](#): > > Now it’s anyone who DOESN’T accept the new view, anyone who wants to stick with what they’ve known their whole life, who gets the ostracism and vitriol. ZOMG, you’re right again! People who call for continued oppression against gay people are boycotted! It’s EXACTLY THE SAME!!!1!one!!! ---
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/36 "2012-07-19T14:14:37Z")
> [@C3](#): > > (bolding mine) > > [Wrong.](http://www.advocate.com/business/2012/07/02/chick-fil-donates-2-mil-antigay-groups) Ya know, that sure looks like you’re right, and I’m wrong. However, all it really says is that a religious minded business made charitable donations to a group that held similar viewpoints. It doesn’t say that they specifically aimed to help a lobbying agenda, just that their charitable donation went to a group that may or may not have attempted to initiate some sort of societal change. If they in fact gave them money, for the express purpose of funding a religious lobbying agenda, well ok then. That’s their prerogative, and it would make my statement wrong. It still doesn’t change the main thrust of my post. Society’s opinion of people with non-traditional views has changed wildly in recent years. I’m not saying it’s a good thing or a bad thing, but if we’re gonna come out and be against someone for holding to their principles, no matter what they are, I think that’s wrong. (Obvious caveat for people infringing on the legally established rights of others) So…I’ll still eat at Chik-fil-a. The foods good, the restaraunt is clean, and the employees are nice. If only more could be like that. ---
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/37 "2012-07-19T14:20:39Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > … :eek: > > You know what, that’s exactly the way it is in my area, as well. > > Burger King, Wendy’s, Popeye’s… all mostly black employees. > > Chick-fil-a… I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a black employee in either of the two stores around here. Try Baltimore. Surprised me too, but there mainly black at the store I went to. Same nice pleasant attitude though. Very “white” if I may be so stereotypical and quasi-racist. It made me wonder what kind of screening process they use for their employees. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/38 "2012-07-19T14:20:58Z")
I’m curious as to how some people made the leap of “being against gay marriage” equating too murder, tyranny and all that other stuff. He was asked a question, he answered the question, and he’s against it and there we go. He didn’t shoot some gay kids in the street, he’s not asking them all to perform sepkku, he’s not actively chasing and hitting him with his car. You know there ARE people out there who are against something that doesn’t automatically make them the worst. person. ever. on par with murderers edit: We have a chik-fil-a in one of the dining halls at my campus and they have a very diverse staff of whites, blacks, asians and the like. Could be more of a college thing than anything else but worth mentioning ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/39 "2012-07-19T14:23:25Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > Same nice pleasant attitude though. Very “white” if I may be so stereotypical and quasi-racist. “Quasi”? Edit: in an interesting full-circle, the blog “Yo, Is This Racist?” [just addressed this situation](http://yoisthisracist.com/post/27541717146/is-it-ok-to-eat-at-chick-fil-a-even-though-its-owner). ---
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689/40 "2012-07-19T14:24:10Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > You’re absolutely right. Women who demanded the vote were [brutalized](http://www.counterfire.org/index.php/articles/75-our-history/7697-the-suffragettes-black-friday-and-the-two-types-of-window-smashing). Black people who demanded equal rights were [murdered](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_civil_rights_workers_murders). Gay activists showing pride were [beaten](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_LGBT_people#Attacks_on_gay_pride_parades). > > ZOMG, you’re right again! People who call for continued oppression against gay people are boycotted! It’s EXACTLY THE SAME!!!1!one!!! You almost seem smart enough to understand the true nature of my point; your overly scarcastic reply isn’t helping to reinforce that though. Let’s not create straw men here. I’m talking about the attitude of the average joe, not the guy who’s got the means and motivation to light a cross of fire or murder someone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-president-comes-out-swinging-against-gay-marriage/628689.md?page=3)