# Chick-fil-A -- will no longer fund groups with anti-same-sex marriage stances.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 20, 2012, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226 "2012-09-20T01:08:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/21 "2012-09-20T17:12:01Z")

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I’m sure the meeting went like this:

“In house counsel has suggested that instead of the private owners of this company giving money to anti-gay causes and then paying ourselves that we instead pay ourselves and then give money to anti-gay causes. All approved, say aye.”

Personally, I don’t generally participate in business boycotts based no the political beliefs of the owner (not living in Chik-fil-A territory means this one is moot for me). I don’t have the energy to keep track.

But unless they do turn around and start supporting the other side I don’t really see that it matters much if a privately held company gives the money directly or it first gives the money to the owners who then give the money directly.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/22 "2012-09-20T17:32:14Z")

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> [@obfusciatrist](#):
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> I’m sure the meeting went like this:
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> “In house counsel has suggested that instead of the private owners of this company giving money to anti-gay causes and then paying ourselves that we instead pay ourselves and then give money to anti-gay causes. All approved, say aye.”
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> Personally, I don’t generally participate in business boycotts based no the political beliefs of the owner (not living in Chik-fil-A territory means this one is moot for me). I don’t have the energy to keep track.
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> But unless they do turn around and start supporting the other side I don’t really see that it matters much if a privately held company gives the money directly or it first gives the money to the owners who then give the money directly.

That’s ok, no protester thought they’d change anyones mind. Changing a business practice was the objective and challenging what is acceptable to promote in public.

A restaurant owner that never misses a Klan meeting would never dream of putting a ‘no coloreds allowed’ sign in the front of his establishment, no one gives a shit what he believes in private.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/23 "2012-09-20T17:34:02Z")

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> [@DMark](#):
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> I later met a member of the Coors family who described that particular family member who was pushing this anti-Gay agenda as their “nut-uncle” and an embarrassment to the rest of the family. They eventually ousted him as CEO, and Coors turned right around and I believe they were one of the first to offer domestic partner health insurance and benefits - and also started to actively support Gay Pride events.

Still tastes disgusting, though.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/24 "2012-09-20T17:35:47Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> What’s wrong with them having a day off? Yeah, it’s a religious reason, but it’s nice for them employees.

I started not going to Chick-Fil-A slightly before the boycott, because I would occasionally drive in toward one, craving a sandwich, only to remember that it was Sunday. I avoid getting my expectations burnt like that by not going to Chick-Fil-A.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/25 "2012-09-20T17:58:20Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> I started not going to Chick-Fil-A slightly before the boycott, because I would occasionally drive in toward one, craving a sandwich, only to remember that it was Sunday. I avoid getting my expectations burnt like that by not going to Chick-Fil-A.

Hah! It seems like the only times I ever had a craving for Chik-Fil-A was on Sundays. I very rarely visit them because I try to cut down on fast food. But it’s interesting to see a company changing a controversial position on something that apparently was rather dear to the owner, whether it’s for financial reasons or not.

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/26 "2012-09-20T18:31:18Z")

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Just in time – they’re starting to expand into the San Francisco area.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/27 "2012-09-20T18:33:37Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> It really isn’t for religious reasons. Truitt Cathy originally took Sunday off because he was exhausted.

And yea, on the first day he created the spicy chicken sandwich.  
And on the second day, thus begat the waffle fries.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/28 "2012-09-20T20:33:28Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> Just in time – they’re starting to expand into the San Francisco area.

They’ve had a location on the outskirts of San Francisco for several years, haven’t they? A friend of mine used to tell me about one of the UGA alumni chapters driving 30 minutes to get chicken for their meetings.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/29 "2012-09-21T05:56:23Z")

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While I understand some people thinking this isn’t enough, I still think we need to reward these people with our business (assuming this is all true). If we don’t, and their profits don’t go up, I expect that they’ll just go back, as what’s the point? It’s not like they actually believe what they were supporting was wrong or anything.’

Then again, I don’t have a Chick-Fil-A near me, so maybe I just don’t know what I’m talking about.

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**Author:** ![MostlyClueless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@MostlyClueless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyClueless)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/30 "2012-09-21T07:04:29Z")

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[Aaaaand they’ve done it again.](http://www.advocate.com/business/2012/09/20/chick-fil-raising-money-very-week-anti-marriage-equality-group)

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/31 "2012-09-21T16:28:05Z")

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The worst part of that article is when they described the 200 mile long bike rally as a “long run” which it is – if it were bicycles. I guess only liberals are fit enough to actually pedal 200 miles.

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/32 "2012-09-21T16:31:47Z")

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Not going in there. Ever.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/33 "2012-09-21T16:43:31Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> The worst part of that article is when they described the 200 mile long bike rally as a “long run” which it is – if it were bicycles. I guess only liberals are fit enough to actually pedal 200 miles.

I’m pretty sure the worst part of the article was about how Chick-Fil-a is holding fundraisers for anti-gay lobbyist groups.

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**Author:** ![jordanr2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@jordanr2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jordanr2)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/34 "2012-09-22T01:07:38Z")

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To hell with them. Since “Chick-Fil-A Appreciation Day,” every time I see a Chick-Fil-A I think of **Sampiro** ’s post about how the bigots happily lining up “spent hours just to demonstrate their hatred.” Any business capable of inspiring something of that nature is never getting my money, no matter what kind of lip service they pay to not sponsoring hate with their profits.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/35 "2012-09-22T01:33:33Z")

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Not sure why this is an issue. Chik-Fil-A can donate to whomever they want and you don’t have to eat there if you find their decision to donate to certain groups so repugnant. This whole thing is just silly.

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**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/36 "2012-09-22T01:51:24Z")

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I will occasionally stop in for a chicken biscuit and an iced tea.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/37 "2012-09-22T02:41:45Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> > [@Rachellelogram](#):
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> > IF this is true (and it’s a massive if), maybe they saw their Q3 earnings. And they were all like ☹
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> I suspect that more likely they got a load of KFC’s return of the “Chicken Littles” sandwiches, and figured that their Q4 earnings don’t need another problem.

Is there any real evidence that their earnings suffered? Around here they had a huge business spike for ‘Appreciation Day’ that seems to have a very long tail. Every single time I see a CfA, even now, it still looks quite busy (excepting Sundays, natch).

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/38 "2012-09-22T02:50:46Z")

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> [@DMark](#):
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> But simply stopping donations to hate organizations is not enough to say “all is good now.” Just because a guy stops beating his wife doesn’t make him Husband of the Year - and no longer donating money to hate groups doesn’t make you a beacon of light for Gay Rights.

But there are a thousand good and important causes out there. Nobody can be a “beacon of light” for _everything_, so it’s not really fair, is it, to lambaste any particular outfit for failure to act positively on any particular score–provided that, of course, they’re not part of the problem.

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**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/39 "2012-09-22T03:37:02Z")

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I don’t care. I still won’t eat their swill.

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**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-fil-a-will-no-longer-fund-groups-with-anti-same-sex-marriage-stances/635226/40 "2012-09-22T03:47:02Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> Not sure why this is an issue. Chik-Fil-A can donate to whomever they want and you don’t have to eat there if you find their decision to donate to certain groups so repugnant. This whole thing is just silly.

Are people in this thread talking about something different?

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