# Chick is at it again. Haw, Haw **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 31, 2002, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932 "2002-12-31T20:13:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/21 "2002-12-31T21:41:08Z")
I found it somewhat insulting that Chick paints his muslims in such extreme shades- How many muslims do you know? Sheesh, they are not going to let you sit on the side of the road because you are an Infidel! Damn people, American-Muslims are not cold blooded. Don’t find it insulting indeed. How about I paint some more christians as Hell-fire inflicting fanatics. I am sure you would be insulted as much as a muslim reading this tract. ---
**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/22 "2002-12-31T22:36:27Z")
My favorite part is in the instructions on how to be saved: “Dear God, thank you for showing me what you think about Islam. \* I also reject it! \*” ---
**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/23 "2002-12-31T22:38:43Z")
Oh, you gotta see [this one!](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042_01.asp) "What are they doing Daddy? “They’re praying to their Moon God, son.” ---
**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/24 "2002-12-31T22:49:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hastur \* > \*\*There are good Chick tracts? \*\* No, just a grayscale shading of vileness. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hastur \* > **How about I paint some more christians as Hell-fire inflicting fanatics.** Chick does a pretty good job of that most of the time, too. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/25 "2002-12-31T22:50:39Z")
Bob implies that all Muslims are “enemies.” Omar implies that no Muslim would ever help an “infidel.” Omar is shocked that “infidels” would help _him_. Omar implies that Islam does not teach that Allah is a loving God. Bob thinks that Allah and God are two different things. His statement that “Allah can offer you nothing…” is patented self-righteous, ignorant, ethnocentric, arrogant, racist, Jack Chick fanatacism. Chick portrays the blind man is a blonde-haired white guy. The Good Samaritan did not try to proselytize the guy that he helped. Still, Chick could have done better. He did not depict Omar as a raving maniacal zealot. He could have also been more explicit in laying the blame for 9/11 on Islam as a religion. I give the tract a 6. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/26 "2002-12-31T22:54:54Z")
This’ll go over big in Riyadh. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/27 "2002-12-31T23:00:42Z")
Yeah, I was actually reading through this one and thinking “Gee, old Jack’s actually come up with a tract that _isn’t_ hateful…He’s doing the Parable of the Good Samaritan!” But then we come to “I wouldn’t help you if _ **you** _ were beaten up…You’re an _ **infidel!** _” :smack: Cite, Jack? ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/28 "2002-12-31T23:00:52Z")
I’ve seen that one, **Lissa**. It’s the one where Chick supposedly shows that “Allah” is a totally different being from “God”. If I’m not mistaken, don’t Arab Christians call him “Allah” too? Is it the name itself Chick objects to, do you suppose? I bet he thinks Spanish speakers are all going to hell for praying to the false god “_Dios_”. And as for this “Moon God” nonsense, well that’s just supreme idiocy. One could make the claim that Chick’s God is just another incarnation of an ancient volcano deity called “Yahweh”, formerly worshipped in the Arabian Peninsula, and that Chick is therefore a volcano-worshipping pagan. Someone should point that out to him. How do you think he’d weasel out of that one? ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/29 "2003-01-01T09:27:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\* > He could have also been more explicit in laying the blame for 9/11 on Islam as a religion. > > \*\* Not sure if you meant that how it reads, but Islam as a religion is no more to blame for 9/11 than Catholicism is to be blamed for bombing of family planning clinics. People have time and again taken the teachings of their religion out of context, and fueled by zealotry, gone on to commit atrocities. That is NOT the fault of the original teaching. It is only the perversions of a man’s mind that cause him to maim and slay his fellow man in the name of God. God didn’t want it that way. ---
**Author:** ![Jabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@Jabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jabba)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/30 "2003-01-01T13:28:25Z")
You know that, I know that and **Diogenes the Cynic** certainly knows that. He was making a point about Mr Chick, not about Islam. ---
**Author:** ![martin\_ibn\_martin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@martin\_ibn\_martin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martin_ibn_martin)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/31 "2003-01-01T15:17:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by cuauhtemoc \* > \*\*I’ve seen that one, **Lissa**. It’s the one where Chick supposedly shows that “Allah” is a totally different being from “God”. If I’m not mistaken, don’t Arab Christians call him “Allah” too? Is it the name itself Chick objects to, do you suppose? I bet he thinks Spanish speakers are all going to hell for praying to the false god “_Dios_”. > > And as for this “Moon God” nonsense, well that’s just supreme idiocy. One could make the claim that Chick’s God is just another incarnation of an ancient volcano deity called “Yahweh”, formerly worshipped in the Arabian Peninsula, and that Chick is therefore a volcano-worshipping pagan. Someone should point that out to him. How do you think he’d weasel out of that one? \*\* hehe Jesus spoke Aramaic. The God of Abraham was called “Allaha” in Aramaic. I wanna see a Tract where the smarmy evangelist witnesses at Jesus himself over his worship of a Canaanite Moon-God. Loads of good scholarship at Chick Publications. Martin ---
**Author:** ![martin\_ibn\_martin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@martin\_ibn\_martin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martin_ibn_martin)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/32 "2003-01-01T15:20:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Epimetheus \* > \*\*I found it somewhat insulting that Chick paints his muslims in such extreme shades- How many muslims do you know? Sheesh, they are not going to let you sit on the side of the road because you are an Infidel! Damn people, American-Muslims are not cold blooded. > > Don’t find it insulting indeed. How about I paint some more christians as Hell-fire inflicting fanatics. I am sure you would be insulted as much as a muslim reading this tract. \*\* More dismayed than offended, really. Martin ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/33 "2003-01-01T15:38:21Z")
> [@](#): > > _Me_ > He could have also been more explicit in laying the blame for 9/11 on Islam as a religion. > [@](#): > > _danceswithcats_ > Not sure if you meant that how it reads, but Islam as a religion is no more to blame for 9/11 than Catholicism is to be blamed for bombing of family planning clinics. People have time and again taken the teachings of their religion out of context, and fueled by zealotry, gone on to commit atrocities. That is NOT the fault of the original teaching. It is only the perversions of a man’s mind that cause him to maim and slay his fellow man in the name of God. God didn’t want it that way. I guess I should have used a winky. I thought it was obvious from the tone of the rest of my post that I was being sarcastic. This line from my post basically sums up how I feel about the whole tract, and about Jack Chick in general: > [@](#): > > His statement that “Allah can offer you nothing…” is patented self-righteous, ignorant, ethnocentric, arrogant, racist, Jack Chick fanatacism. I was making a joke about the relatively low amount of over-the-top fanatacism as compared to some of his other tracts. Of course I don’t believe that Islam was responsible for 9/11. I was expressing some surprise that _Chick_ didn’t try to make a case for it. (actually, he did, just not as overtly as I would normally expect) ---
**Author:** ![martin\_ibn\_martin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@martin\_ibn\_martin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martin_ibn_martin)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/34 "2003-01-01T15:42:25Z")
I just came across a page refuting Morey’s assertions regarding my moon-god. [http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Allah/moongod.html#11](http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Allah/moongod.html#11) Nicely done, I think. Martin ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/35 "2003-01-01T16:26:17Z")
The hate and narrow mindedness in these Chick tracts makes my skin crawl. What is wrong with calling the Deity Allah or Buddah or Jehovah or Yahweh? For a small group of people to think they have the inside (and only correct) track on the Deities is arrogant at best and nastily intolerant at worst. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/36 "2003-01-01T17:33:48Z")
In 2 hours and 5 minutes, Bob changed a man’s _entire_ life course. Surely this is a man to be reckoned with. I wonder if he has ever come to the SDMB? Well, I guess not. Because if he had, there would be no atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Bhuddists, Zoroastrians, or any form of Christianity other than his… I also appreciate his admonition to read the Bible (KJV)… Why only the King James Bible? What if I don’t read and speak English? It’s hard enough to grasp some of the meaning in Olde English for an English speaking person. How about all the Spaniards and Koreans? Oh yes, I forgot… With God’s power, anything is possible. Oh Lord, please forgive me for posting in vain. (funny… there were no oral sex image inuendos in this tract…) ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/37 "2003-01-01T18:35:42Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **amp** _ > I mean, after all, without the humor all these tracts are religious drivel. And **with** it…? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/38 "2003-01-01T20:18:06Z")
Well, _with_ it, they’re **amusing** religious drivel… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![snermy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@snermy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snermy)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/39 "2003-01-01T22:26:15Z")
Intresting where Omar is saying that the guys beating him up were also Christians. (Assuming Omar actually knew that somehow, from the tract, they could just as well have been any religion or none). All Bob has to say is that “they aren’t real Christians”. I guess when they invited Jesus into their hearts, he declined. ---
**Author:** ![I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_can_t_believe_that_s_butter)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2003, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932/40 "2003-01-01T22:43:37Z")
A boil on his already existing black-eye on his reputation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chick-is-at-it-again-haw-haw/145932.md?page=3)