# Chics who put out or nice girls? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 16, 2003, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151 "2003-06-16T04:27:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/21 "2003-06-16T18:25:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by YourOldBuddy \* > \*\*I live in Iceland and things here are a bit different. > \*\* [hijack]I’d imagine you’ve just sparked a fair amount of wistful daydreaming among certain readers, with their own vivid ideas of how things are different in Iceland. I’m sure your stories, esp. those relating to the more complaisant of the Icelandic maidens, would receive a welcome hearing from this contingent. I remember a tourist campaign (or seem to) whose theme was something along the lines of “Hot Icelandic Nights” – refreshingly (or not) unabashed in basically pimping off the Nordic babes as the raison d’etre of Icelandic tourism. [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/22 "2003-06-16T19:03:04Z")
Personally, I’m a bit scared of women who want to get right down to business, so to speak. I never dated in high school - still haven’t, actually - and have never gotten laid. So when a woman starts suggesting that we might do something other than discuss politics, I tend not to know how to handle the situation and go hide in my dorm room. I’m really much more comfortable with women who I’ve known for a while. Unfortunately, by this time I’m usually stuck in “good friend” status, and don’t want to risk that friendship by trying to upgrade. Good grief, that looks pathetic. I’m really quite successful, honest. High GPA and everything. Just, er, no luck with the ladies. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/23 "2003-06-16T19:20:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pessimisticgrace \* > \*\*\<\<“guys with wonderful personalities”\>\> > > Such a thing exists? > \*\* Of course not! But “wonderful personality” is woman-code for “I feel no sexual attraction to you whatsoever and probably never will.” ---
**Author:** ![In\_Conceivable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@In\_Conceivable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/In_Conceivable)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/24 "2003-06-16T19:37:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MikeRochenelle \* > \*\*I prefer **women** who are mature enough to not be freaked out about having sex, and are capable of deciding if they like me enough to have sex with me by the third date. > \*\* Huh? I am a mature women who is not freaked out by sex. However, three dates isn’t really very much time to get to know someone. It seems very immature to me to put a three date time limit on starting a relationship. ---
**Author:** ![YourOldBuddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/bc79bd/32.png) [@YourOldBuddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YourOldBuddy)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/25 "2003-06-16T19:48:57Z")
Sry, OT but someone needs to get the record straight. Knowing someone well is not a prerequisite to having sex. Also sex is a wonderfull way of getting to know someone. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/26 "2003-06-16T20:20:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by YourOldBuddy \* > \*\*Sry, OT but someone needs to get the record straight. > > Knowing someone well is not a prerequisite to having sex. Also sex is a wonderfull way of getting to know someone. \*\* For _you_ it might not be a prerequisite, but some of us have different standards. I, for one, would never consider trusting my body, my health, and quite possibly my _life_ to someone I don’t know well. ---
**Author:** ![In\_Conceivable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@In\_Conceivable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/In_Conceivable)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/27 "2003-06-16T20:48:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by YourOldBuddy \* > \*\*Sry, OT but someone needs to get the record straight. > > Knowing someone well is not a prerequisite to having sex. Also sex is a wonderfull way of getting to know someone. \*\* Perhaps it isn’t for you. For some people it is. Wanting to know someone before having sex doesn’t make one immature or freaked out by sex. To me the best sex is with someone you already know well and are comfortable with. ---
**Author:** ![Adman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@Adman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Adman)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/28 "2003-06-16T20:57:51Z")
This poster has one motto… Put out or get out. And yes I am probably getting laid more than that one guy. ---
**Author:** ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/29 "2003-06-16T20:59:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Adman \* > \*\*This poster has one motto… Put out or get out. And yes I am probably getting laid more than that one guy. \*\* Uh-huh, because you have such a way with words…charming. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/30 "2003-06-16T21:14:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Adman \* > \*\*This poster has one motto… Put out or get out. And yes I am probably getting laid more than that one guy. \*\* Sorry dude, Mrs. Palmer and her five daughters doesn’t count. ---
**Author:** ![susan\_foster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@susan\_foster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan_foster)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/31 "2003-06-16T21:25:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MikeRochenelle \* > [ > Further, I tend to hate the living crap out of **immature little girls** who are either freaked out about having sex (choose one: religious nut, virgin till marriage, scared of men and male sexuality), or who string me along for date after date after date with no intention of ever getting more serious, simply because I know the good restaurants, have a credit card, and am pleasant company. > -Ben \*\* Ahem. I am a virgin - I will remain so until I get married. I am not an immature little girl - I am a woman who has made a choice to be careful with my body and who I share it with - and ask that whomever I date has respect for my beliefs. Guess that knocks you out of the race \*\*MikeRochenelle \*\* . Susan ---
**Author:** ![Pablito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@Pablito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pablito)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/32 "2003-06-16T22:10:30Z")
So who get’s to start the pit thread for **Adman**? His posts continue Ad nauseum. ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/33 "2003-06-16T22:12:34Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **Adman** _ > This poster has one motto… Put out or get out. And yes I am probably getting laid more than that one guy. In that case, I’ll cut to the chase. Get out. I prefer my record of never having had bad sex, and your attitude doesn’t seem conducive to good sex. This virgin’s response was not to lie there “like a dead fish”, but to say “Mind if we do it again?” while ensuring the answer to that was “Not at all!” Man that was a good weekend! **cuauhtemoc** , how _you_ doing again? 😉 CJ ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/34 "2003-06-16T22:16:35Z")
Ok, I’ll probably get flamed for this but I don’t care, I don’t believe anybody on here when they say girls like nice guys, because obviously they don’t and if they did (and I will probably be mocked for saying this as well) I would have plenty of them chasing me. But do you know what? They like bad guys and I haven’t seen any other evidence that they do not, I have tried and tried and tried to find out in my area and others if the girls liked nice guys and do you know what? The quote ‘nice guys finish last’ is absolutely true, all we have to wait for is girls who have had sexual partners who have messed them about and we have to deal with it. I think I’m being terribly sexist, and a moron, I apologise for that, but what else can I say? There just doesn’t seem to be any positive aspects of being one. Help me out here, without smart assed remarks… ---
**Author:** ![Essured](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Essured](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Essured)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/35 "2003-06-16T22:24:12Z")
**Ryan,** well, why don’t you tell us what behaviours and thoughts you have that make you a ‘nice guy’ ? Perhaps your picture of a ‘nice guy’ is different from others ? You can say that girls don’t like nice guys, but you’re wrong. I married the nicest guy in the world (sorry, girls, he IS 😉 ) That’s why I’m thinking the problem may be in your definition of a ‘nice guy’. Follow ? ---
**Author:** ![Netbrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71e660/32.png) [@Netbrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Netbrian)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/36 "2003-06-16T22:29:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Adman \* > \*\*This poster has one motto… Put out or get out. And yes I am probably getting laid more than that one guy. \*\* :eek: My god! You’ve had sex more than zero times?!! I bow down to your sheer manliness. Oh wait, there is that one, slight issue that the subset of people you find attractive, which is mainly based on how easy they are to seduce, probably shares no elements with my particular subset. Oh, and I wouldn’t think you were real, had it not been for the fact I know too many people that are living models of your beautiful romantic sentiments. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/37 "2003-06-16T22:30:14Z")
Well, my definition of a nice guy is well, good to be around, polite, respectful, humourous, intelligent (but that can aplly to bad guys too) thoughful, commited, honourable and maybe helpful, thats my interpretation of a nice guy…but it just seems to be no point in doing so…I think I’m just depressed cause its been like forever since I even hugged or spoke to a girl I liked, and waiting is driving me crazy. ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/38 "2003-06-16T22:42:56Z")
Adman. long walk short pier best course of action. ((Ryan\_Liam)) Keep your head up. Think of which you’ll regret more, a few months of celibacy, or treating someone like dirt. Do unto others and all that. It’s worth it in the end. ---
**Author:** ![BadBaby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71c47a/32.png) [@BadBaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BadBaby)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/39 "2003-06-16T22:54:34Z")
Ryan, is your wonderfulness clear to the girls you’re hanging out with? Sure, you know you’re a great catch, but sometimes you need to do a little promotion, don’t hide your light under a bushel. That doesn’t mean brag and act like a pompous ass, but don’t sit there in silence either. Also, it’s going to take chatting with and being turned down by a lot of girls. It’s not like the movies where people meet their soulmate after dating only two other people. Lastly, girls your age often have a high tolerance for assholes. _cough_adman_cough_ It’s no consolation right now, but once those girls get tired of the idiot bad boy manuevers and machinations, they’re going to be all over you. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151/40 "2003-06-16T23:05:18Z")
I guess its because there is no way of getting to a place where I can actually meet someone cool, I mean, I’m at that age where well I’m no longer a child but not yet an adult, I’ve left school, but can’t get a job, and there seems to be no clear way of meeting people, I’ve nearly finished my first year at college…its all really frustrating, and around here the girls like bad asses and older men, so thats another factor. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chics-who-put-out-or-nice-girls/182151.md?page=3)