# Chief Pedant, come on down!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 11, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363 "2015-10-11T22:09:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/121 "2015-10-12T19:26:42Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> Doeisn’t effect me at all. I still think the user agreement should simply include racism (to go along with hate speech) as one of the things you agree to not post on the Dope.

Riight. Then why did you bring up global warming in a thread that has nothing to do with it? Why did you bring up government imposed speech restrictions in a thread that has nothing to do with it? Why did you mis-characterize the argument made by the racists and the rebuttals to that argument?

It’s very obvious what kind of game you are trying to play. You racists always think you’re being clever, but you aren’t.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/122 "2015-10-12T19:29:40Z")

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> [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> Riight. Then why did you …

Because you are an unpleasant person, and I don’t like you.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/123 "2015-10-12T19:33:44Z")

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> [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> Riight. Then why did you bring up global warming in a thread that has nothing to do with it?

A yes, I forgot to note that as a crank magnet Chief Pedant **also** goes for the denial that humans are changing the climate in harmful ways. FXMastermind also does, and as I noted before supporters of that view are becoming rarer and rarer so he has to defend other cranks.

Even if those cranks are also holocaust deniers or racists.

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**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/124 "2015-10-12T19:35:22Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> Because you are an unpleasant person, and I don’t like you.

I would say you were unpleasant, but unpleasant doesn’t begin to cover it. You are a deeply vile person.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/125 "2015-10-12T19:35:36Z")

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Et voila, encore le cirque…  
now the extremists can dance in their circle each repeating the other side are just the most terrible ever.  
boring.

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**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/126 "2015-10-12T19:41:18Z")

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> [@Ramira](#):
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> Et voila, encore le cirque…  
> now the extremists can dance in their circle each repeating the other side are just the most terrible ever.  
> boring.

Spare us the false equivalence.

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**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/127 "2015-10-12T19:42:19Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> A yes, I forgot to note that as a crank magnet Chief Pedant **also** goes for the denial that humans are changing the climate in harmful ways. FXMastermind also does, and as I noted before supporters of that view are becoming rarer and rarer so he has to defend other cranks.
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> Even if those cranks are also holocaust deniers or racists.

Ah, I didn’t realize there was a Bigot Brigade in action here. I wonder if they tag-out and in when they come into threads, like professional wrestlers.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/128 "2015-10-12T19:44:23Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> A yes, I forgot to note that as a crank magnet Chief Pedant **also** goes for the denial that humans are changing the climate in harmful ways. FXMastermind also does, and as I noted before supporters of that view are becoming rarer and rarer so he has to defend other cranks.
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> Even if those cranks are also holocaust deniers or racists.

Interesting. I just assumed that we weren’t paying him enough attention, so he moved the topic to his favorite. “Look at me, look at me.”

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/129 "2015-10-12T19:45:23Z")

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> [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> Ah, I didn’t realize there was a Bigot Brigade in action here. I wonder if they tag-out and in when they come into threads, like professional wrestlers.

Well, lets be fair, it is hard to be a bigot of mercury fillings… 🙂 😉

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/130 "2015-10-12T19:54:42Z")

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I know, I know. How do you get a one-armed bigot out of a tree?

Wave.  
Does that help at all? (kill the boredom that is)

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/131 "2015-10-12T20:10:41Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> so he has to defend other cranks.

That’s a goddamn lie, and you know it. It’s one reason why you are such an unpleasant person.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/132 "2015-10-12T20:13:25Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> That’s a goddamn lie, and you know it. It’s one reason why you are such an unpleasant person.

Meh, whatever Captain Amalgam.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/133 "2015-10-12T20:20:53Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> What I am trivializing is the false calls of racism from dolts like DullNCloudy. And the desperate desire by some to conflate rac_ist_ statements with rac_ial_ ones.

I already _called_ Bingo!, **maggie** , no need to repeat yourself.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/134 "2015-10-12T20:38:59Z")

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> [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> You are a deeply vile person.

No, that’s a lie. It’s that you tell lies like that, that makes you so unpleasant.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/135 "2015-10-12T20:40:24Z")

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> [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> Riiiight. **Ramira** posted very polite rebuttals in this thread. Did any of that sink into your thick racist skull? Of course not. Because it’s not about the name calling or the politeness, it’s really about your desire to spout racist nonsense. Because you are a racist.

Tsk, tsk, tsk… You’re so unbright. The point of the post you to which this was, evidently, a response to was your eagerness—your _need_—to conflate rac_ial_ with rac_ist_. The post about your childish need to hurl invective and ad hominems came earlier. Please try to keep your stupidity straight.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/136 "2015-10-12T20:41:10Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Meh, whatever Captain Amalgam.

That’s your response to being called out for telling lies? That’s all you got?

What the fuck man? What did you expect was going to happen when you lied?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/137 "2015-10-12T20:42:58Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Tsk, tsk, tsk… You’re so unbright. The point of the post you to which this was, evidently, a response to was your eagerness—your _need_—to conflate rac_ial_ with rac_ist_. The post about your childish need to hurl invective and ad hominems came earlier. Please try to keep your stupidity straight.

For a guy who complains so much about invective, you sure seem to be spending more time on doing it yourself than on actual engagement with people who try to honestly answer your questions.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/138 "2015-10-12T20:46:55Z")

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I’ll repeat this again: for literally centuries, people have been claiming that black people are inherently inferior in intelligence. And for centuries, these people have been saying that they have good data and good reason to believe this. Also, for centuries, people have been saying that Jews are inherently greedier and less trustworthy. And for centuries, these people have been saying that they have good data and good reason to believe this.

Everyone who made these claims thought they had good data and good reason. Why is it any different now? Why are **CP** ’s claims, which according to him are far more than just a hypothesis, any different? If he was just saying “maybe genes might be part of the answer to this question”, that would be one thing… but he’s not saying that; he’s saying without reservation that black people on average have inherently inferior genes for intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/139 "2015-10-12T20:50:04Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Oh, and Nature called.

> [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> Nature called

Aha, so that’s why this thread is full of shit.

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**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chief-pedant-come-on-down/734363/140 "2015-10-12T20:58:02Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Tsk, tsk, tsk… You’re so unbright. The point of the post you to which this was, evidently, a response to was your eagerness—your _need_—to conflate rac_ial_ with rac_ist_. The post about your childish need to hurl invective and ad hominems came earlier. Please try to keep your stupidity straight.

You’re attempt to try and claim that racist arguments aren’t racist is the stupidity here. You’re a racist idiot. And your racism makes you impervious to the actual science involved here.

Calling you a racist isn’t ad hominem, because that’s what you are.

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