# ChiefWahoo- lay off the joy juice. Wake up and smell the urine.You pissed on yourself **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 1, 2000, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246 "2000-10-01T15:35:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AM\_PM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AM\_PM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AM_PM)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2000, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/1 "2000-10-01T15:35:34Z")
I keep getting email postcards (with invalid retrun addresses) that say “Aren’t you going to defend yourself? ChiefWahoo has a hard-on for you.” I ignored them, figuring it was some clown at work they were talking about. Then I eventually come here and check my name to see if anyone answered a post of mine, which several have, and this turns up: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ChiefWahoo \* > **Well, I’m guessing that (at the very least) Piano and AM/PM are the same person. Am I right, \*\* Alpha**, old buddy? \*\* This is so random. ChiefWahoo seems to have a “chemical imbalance”, and based on the name, we’re not alking too much MSG. Let’s review, Mr.Wahoo (sorry, I’m not impressed with titles)- Easy toko starts a rant that jimsomething(not my fault he misspelled it) has used putz too often, and putz is stupid. I respond, disagreeing and saying the guy can putz if he wants. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by AM/PM \* > \*\*Seems like everyone in the Pit is a whiner. > > If jimbob wants to be putz king, let him. > Not something I’d aspire to, but we all have to find our own goals in life. > > Here’s one for you jimbo! Keep the putzes coming > > :putz: > > \*\* Piano on the other hand says: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Piano \* > \*\*yojimbo never seemed worth a thread. He’s kind of a blowhard. > Posts a lot and doesn’t think about it much. > > He’s just going to love seeing his name up there, you know. > > He’s so dorky he’ll probably add the title to his signature. \*\* Not even similar. And you see the same devil’s evil hand at work in both quotes? I know it’s popular in the pit to say there are only two opinions on any issue- yours and everyone’s who’s your enemy. But actually, if you bother to read the posts, there are as many different opinions as posters and posters seldom are even responding to the same part of the rant. So it’s time for you to lay off the sauce and crawl back on the wagon. ---
**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2000, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/2 "2000-10-01T16:42:18Z")
My very own Pit thread, I’m honored. If anyone is confused, AM/PM is referring to [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=38773)thread, in which **Alphagene** suggests he has some secret knowledge about a few posters in said thread. If you will recall, this was during the “British Invasion” and it was widely suspected that it was 1 or 2 trolls with multiple sock-puppets causing all the trouble. Well,AM/PM, I most certainly do not have a “hard-on for you”. I don’t really remember but I believe my reasoning was based on [ul][li]Your registration date within a day of Piano’s[_]Similar posting style[_]Paranoia from troll infestation. [/ul][/li]Apparently I was wrong. You are not Piano. Happy? ---
**Author:** ![AM\_PM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AM\_PM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AM_PM)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2000, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/3 "2000-10-01T20:55:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ChiefWahoo \* > \*\*My very own Pit thread, I’m honored. > Apparently I was wrong. You are not Piano. Happy? > \*\* You’re honored by this? You trash a guy and it’s “apparantly a mistake” and I’m supposed to be happy? You are not honorable at all that I can see. Why is it supposed to be an honor to smear someone and get caught? 1. there doesn’t seem to be anthing British about the threads in question, nor me, nor piano. 2. Our posting “styles” are similar? That’s bullshit. You wish that were true, because then you’d have an excuse. 3. I registered within a day of piano? Our whatzit numbers are 40 apart. Are the other 40 also trolls? How about the 40 ahead of her and 40 behind me? Wow! You discovered a nest of 100 trolls. Funny thing though, everyone else accused of trolldom on that thread has really different numbers. And who’s within 40 of you? How do I get that list? It would certainly make a fine speculation site for you next time. You’re honored? You’re the biggest :putz: that I see hereabouts. Welcome to the honor. ---
**Author:** ![AM\_PM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AM\_PM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AM_PM)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2000, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/4 "2000-10-01T21:05:06Z")
And you tried to put some of it on Alphagene? He was the honorable one. He didn’t speculate at people’s expense, but ran whatever tests he ran and kept the answers to himself. That’s how it should work, I think. He had a lot more honor going for him than you did, so don’t try to act like you were just doing the same. You could have emailed your question to him, but you didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2000, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/5 "2000-10-01T22:43:22Z")
**AM/PM** Are you trying to make the :wally smiley or are you saying “:putz:” on purpose? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2000, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/6 "2000-10-01T23:31:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by AM/PM \* > **3) I registered within a day of piano? Our whatzit numbers are 40 apart. Are the other 40 also trolls? How about the 40 ahead of her and 40 behind me? Wow! You discovered a nest of 100 trolls.** For your edification, **AM/PM** : ```auto 2 40 40 + 40 --- 122 ``` If you dare throw out a number in the pit, make sure you know how to do the math. :wally ---
**Author:** ![MysterEcks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@MysterEcks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysterEcks)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/7 "2000-10-02T00:22:10Z")
This is the second time someone has oozed out of the woodwork to revive this matter. **Adriatic Ionian Ægean** performed for the gallery [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=39979); then, four days after **Alpha** locks that one, **AM/PM** does it again–nearly two weeks after the fact. As Arsenio Hall used to say, this is one of those things that make you go “hmmmm.” ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/8 "2000-10-02T00:48:08Z")
Bashing ChiefWahoo?? Are you fucking nuts? This guys plays rugby with a dead GOOSE, for crying out loud. How on earth can this guy do something uncool 😉 I’m getting very bored with these “newbies” resurrecting the same old shit every week or so. They can’t all be independent, says I. I’m sure some moderators will agree with that after some empirical analysys. ---
**Author:** ![Silo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Silo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silo)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/9 "2000-10-02T02:08:27Z")
Yeah newbies, wait before you call issues to matters like these…until you have become a lil more well known around here. What you then have to say will prolly be evaluated by the gospel with more than a grain of NaCl. I assure you. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/10 "2000-10-02T16:03:04Z")
I tried to resist, but it’s just so easy. **AM/PM** said (and quoted him/herself as saying): > [@](#): > > Seems like everyone in the Pit is a whiner. That goes for people starting silly threads in the Pit as well, right? If the shoe fits, pally . . . ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/11 "2000-10-02T16:18:19Z")
> [@](#): > > Easy toko starts a rant that jimsomething(not my fault he misspelled it) Thats **Yojimbo** , a character from the japanese film “the Seven Samurai”, which was remade as “The Magnificent Seven” I do believe. He spelt it correctly. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of your spelling of Tokyo in the above quote. \*\* [Lessons in Manners, volume 12] \*\* > [@](#): > > Apparently I was wrong. You are not Piano. Happy? This is where the Chief admitted he was wrong. Now, this is where you say, “Fair enough” and let the matter die. Leave it alone, do not pass go, do not collect $200. ---
**Author:** ![Tymp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Tymp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tymp)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/12 "2000-10-02T16:46:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Silo \* > \*\*Yeah newbies, wait before you call issues to matters like these…until you have become a lil more well known around here. What you then have to say will prolly be evaluated by the gospel with more than a grain of NaCl. I assure you. \*\* There are no rules for newbies to follow other than those established by the moderators and administrators of this message board. I don’t like seeing anyone told that they have not yet earned the right to speak up. Apparently, **AM/PM** feels the need to defend himself/herself and react to perceived injustices committed by another poster. Right or wrong, all posters should feel free to do so. If you are right, you should defend yourself. If you’re wrong, you’ll be smacked down and become a better poster anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Myrr21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Myrr21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrr21)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/13 "2000-10-02T16:53:40Z")
“Yojimbo” (the movie, not the character) was remade as “Last Man Standing”, starring Bruce Willis (sp?). Watch “Yojimbo”, it’s better. AM/PM: Boo-frickin-hoo. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/14 "2000-10-02T17:11:02Z")
[Yojimbo](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0055630) was remade as “A Fistful of Dollars” and “Last Man Standing”. ---
**Author:** ![sdimbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sdimbert/32/20204_2.png) [@sdimbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sdimbert)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/15 "2000-10-02T17:14:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Myrr21 \* > **"Yojimbo" (the movie, not the character) was remade as “Last Man Standing”, starring Bruce Willis (sp?). Watch “Yojimbo”, it’s better.** Just for the record, saying _Yojimbo_ is a better movie than _Last Man Standing_ is like saying that Godiva Chocolate tastes better than frozen gobs of goose shit. Just for the record. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tymp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Tymp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tymp)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/16 "2000-10-02T18:38:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by yojimbo \* > \*\* [Yojimbo](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0055630) was remade as “A Fistful of Dollars” and “Last Man Standing”. > \*\* . . . and “The Warrior and the Sorceress” which cannot be recommended as entertainment for sentient life forms. ---
**Author:** ![Silo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Silo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silo)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/17 "2000-10-02T21:58:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tymp \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Silo \* > > \*\*Yeah newbies, wait before you call issues to matters like these…until you have become a lil more well known around here. What you then have to say will prolly be evaluated by the gospel with more than a grain of NaCl. I assure you. \*\* > > There are no rules for newbies to follow other than those established by the moderators and administrators of this message board. I don’t like seeing anyone told that they have not yet earned the right to speak up. Apparently, **AM/PM** feels the need to defend himself/herself and react to perceived injustices committed by another poster. Right or wrong, all posters should feel free to do so. If you are right, you should defend yourself. If you’re wrong, you’ll be smacked down and become a better poster anyway. > \*\* It’s just advice Tymp, too many newbies have cried wolf in the pit as of late. ---
**Author:** ![AM\_PM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AM\_PM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AM_PM)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/18 "2000-10-02T22:16:06Z")
Responses for the serious people: (those who posted just to pad their post counts get a putz for “honorable” mention) **voguevixen Posts: 1805** the “:putz:” came out by accident the first time, and I corrected it then, but when quoted, the original was there again. It’s almost more appealing. I don’t get the wink on the other one. **Mr. Cynical Posts:1803** :wally **MysterEcks Posts 947** You seem to be easily confused by dates. The date I returned to this board was the date I posted my thread. I genreally come here every week or so, to see if there’s a new Cecil column (remember him?) and if I have time I may read, and if I’m in the mood I may post. I know you seem to live here, and mistakenly believe all others do too, but that’s just sad. And wrong. There was a recent thread in GQ that said the “average” poster might be the one with only one post. The high count posters are then the oddballs, not the “newbies”. And “oozing out of the woodwork” seems to be your specialty, not mine. **Coldfire Posts: 4620** He told you he plays with dead geese and that’s “cool”? I guess some people are easily impressed. “Same old shit”? It was new to me. Also, the problem seems to be ChiefWahoo has no trouble beating dead horses. I don’t see him or you ignoring something because it’s old shit, so why must I? And you’re bored with newbies? So? We are bored with you (I guess I can speak for every one of us, since you seem so certain we are all alike). If you don’t like newbies, why don’t you go somewhere else, somewhere you can be the newbie and see if they listen to you (in most places they will listen, even places like the non-pit forums at SDMB). **Silo Posts:1250** This sounded like it could be ironic, so I’ll ignore it. **andros Posts:2267** This sounded like it could be ironic, so I’ll ignore it. **TwistofFate Posts:1510** You corrected my typo, but created at least two of your own. “This is where the Chief admitted he was wrong. Now, this is where you say, “Fair enough” and let the matter die. Leave it alone, do not pass go, do not collect $200.” This is correct, sad to say. **Tymp Posts:748** Thanks for the support. **Myrr21 Posts: 1349** :wally: **yojimbo Posts: 1251** :wally: **sdimbert Posts: 779** :wally: **Tymp Posts: 748** :wally: (sorry, but this post was filler) **Silo Posts: 1251** **You have provided us with the ultimate error: "too many newbies have cried wolf in the pit as of late. " False. The entire problem is that the oldbies have cried wolf in the pit too many times as of late, and always attack newbies to do it.** You’ll notice no newbies bought into your “panic”. And only the “youngest” oldbie called for logic. So now what? ““Fair enough” and let the matter die. Leave it alone, do not pass go, do not collect $200.” This is correct, sad to say." But Coldfire keeps bringing up old shit, (is that why he’s called cold fire? for raking cold ashes?) so I doubt this will die just yet. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/19 "2000-10-02T22:25:59Z")
I resurrect old shit? **WHO IS THE GODDAMN STARTER OF THIS THREAD, FUCKWAD?** Now get out of my face, you smelly pool of goat cum. You bore me beyond human measure. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2000, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246/20 "2000-10-02T22:42:06Z")
Pointing out an inconsistency in your rant, **AM/PM** was not ironic. The inconsistency itself was. You said everyone who posts in the Pit is a whiner (which is patently false), then started a thread in the Pit. Do you understand why I find that inconsistent? I’m not at all sure why the number of posts I’ve made is important to you. Or are you claiming there’s some sort of conspiracy that I’m a part of? If so, please explain–I’d like to know how I’m being classified. Finally, I’m curious. Bearing in mind that I know nothing about the events that sparked the OP, it seems to me that you took a couple of unusual shots in your OP: > [@](#): > > lay off the joy juice > [@](#): > > ChiefWahoo seems to have a “chemical imbalance”, and based on the name, we’re not alking too much MSG. > [@](#): > > lay off the sauce and crawl back on the wagon Now, if I didn’t know any better, I might almost think that your comments were insults based on race. I’m sure it wasn’t your intent to equate ChiefWahoo with Native Americans with alcoholics. Could you please clear this up for me? Were you being intentionally racist or am I misunderstanding you? If the latter, I’d very much appreciate your explaining what you really meant. Thanks. -andros- l33t liek Jeff K. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chiefwahoo-lay-off-the-joy-juice-wake-up-and-smell-the-urine-you-pissed-on-yourself/35246.md?page=2)