# Child labor in Alabama Hyundai factory

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 22, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383 "2022-07-22T17:38:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/41 "2022-07-24T14:48:24Z")

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Yes, that is the most likely explanation, that political correctness has run amuck in Alabama. Not that Alabama is a third world shit hole.

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**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/42 "2022-07-24T15:02:30Z")

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> **Off Topic and too political hidden by {What Exit?}**
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> Violate the norms of political correctness and you will definitely experience **"outright threats and coercion**". You can be assured that if anybody spoke out about suspected underage immigrants and turned out to be wrong they would be vilified all over social media, fired, and likely find it hard to find new employment. Why take a chance? Most people just stay silent.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/43 "2022-07-24T15:07:02Z")

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> [@agzem](#):
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> I think it’s likely these underage workers used fake id provided by their parents. Even if they looked older it seems somebody should have asked some questions. Political correctness and fear of “offending” would be a good motivating factor for people to stay silent.

Are you actually trying to create a liberal strawman to blame? 🙄

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/44 "2022-07-24T15:12:09Z")

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> [@agzem](#):
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> You can be assured that if anybody spoke out about suspected underage immigrants and turned out to be wrong they would be vilified all over social media, fired, and likely find it hard to find new employment.

Show me a single instance of this happening in the past. Where is the straw this strawman is made of?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/45 "2022-07-24T15:17:31Z")

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When I think of the many insurmountable challenges that Alabama faces: illiteracy, obesity, systemic racism, deep-seated anti-intellectualism, and more racism, being overly woke is not on the list.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/46 "2022-07-24T15:22:48Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> When I think of the many insurmountable challenges that Alabama faces: illiteracy, obesity, systemic racism, deep-seated anti-intellectualism, and more racism, being overly woke is not on the list. -

You left out just plain old racism.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/47 "2022-07-24T15:36:04Z")

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> [@agzem](#):
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> Political correctness and fear of “offending” would be a good motivating factor for people to stay silent.

> [@agzem](#):
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> Violate the norms of political correctness and you will definitely experience **"outright threats and coercion**".

_Easily_ the most moronic post I’ve read here in a long, long time.

People don’t report work violations when they fear losing their livelihoods, when they need the money too badly to risk losing the job or getting deported or getting others deported.

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**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/48 "2022-07-24T15:38:10Z")

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> **Off Topic and too political hidden by {What Exit?}**
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> Here’s where political correctness enabled the rape of 1,400 children:
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> “… police forces lean over backwards to avoid the accusation of racism, while social workers will hesitate to intervene in any case in which they could be accused of discriminating against ethnic minorities”
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> [Why Did British Police Ignore Pakistani Gangs Abusing 1,400 Rotherham Children? Political Correctness](https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerscruton/2014/08/30/why-did-british-police-ignore-pakistani-gangs-raping-rotherham-children-political-correctness/?sh=4816f846754a)

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/49 "2022-07-24T15:38:28Z")

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/50 "2022-07-24T15:40:50Z")

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**Modnote** : @agzem, Your 3 posts are wildly off-topic and far too political for MPSIMS. **You are instructed to stop posting in this thread for now** and I will hide your posts in spoilers with instructions to not respond.

I believe at least a warning will be coming shortly.

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Sorry for the extra long delay, the Open Timer didn’t work for some reason. It was suppose to 12 minutes and not 22.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/51 "2022-07-24T16:00:21Z")

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/52 "2022-07-24T16:07:38Z")

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While I do not have great faith in Alabama doing the right thing for the right reasons, they may (hopefully) make it more than the most minor slap on the wrist. The reason being, for the snips from the OP and the article itself, that it’s a pattern going back at least three years, and likely involving substantial numbers.

Now @Dr.Winston_OBoogie is absolutely correct about the legal protection provided by using the subcontractors, but someone, somewhere, likely reported this issue to HR at least once if we are really talking about 50 or so such employees. And if Hyundai had the reports and did nothing, that’s something that the normal dodges may miss.

Do I think it’ll go past the fines and ‘review of our subcontractor’ policy? No. But it might be an actual substantial fine, and a requirement for additional oversight. The first I find likely, the second not so much… unless it comes from a federal investigation.

But the most important point is probably from @DrDeth

> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Hyundai itself will escape unscathed, except for the PR nightmare. Which so far isn’t much. _This needs to be spread._

So spread the word.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/53 "2022-07-24T16:13:28Z")

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Right? They were otherwise juat going to steal an education from taxpayers.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/54 "2022-07-24T16:16:30Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> Right? They were otherwise juat going to steal **an education** from taxpayers. -

That is a commodity in short supply in Alabama. Likely because there’s little demand.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/55 "2022-07-24T17:10:24Z")

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Your 3 posts in this thread have generated a **Warning** and your many warnings in the last 2 years along with 50 flags with a very high percentage of borderline posts has brought on a **3 day suspension** while the Modloop is discussing your continuing as a poster.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/56 "2022-07-24T17:16:37Z")

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The same game has been played in agriculture for decades: limit/eliminate liability by hiring contractors for staffing needs, and then look the other way when the child labor force shows up carrying Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Hello, Kitty ! lunch boxes.

It’s pretty damned disgusting.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/57 "2022-07-24T18:19:38Z")

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Lunch boxes!? What is this, some kind of Commie, Socialist, Libtard commune? They can eat on their own time when they get back to the barracks.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/58 "2022-07-24T18:23:47Z")

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> [@Steve\_McQwark](#):
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> Lunch boxes!? What is this, some kind of Commie, Socialist, Libtard commune? They can eat on their own time when they get back to the barracks. -

Barracks!? What happened to the tents?

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**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/59 "2022-07-24T18:34:00Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> hat is a commodity in short supply in Alabama. Likely because there’s little demand.

From a safe distance I will stand up for the people of Alabama and say that there are likely many people there who want and would profit by a decent education.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-labor-in-alabama-hyundai-factory/968383/60 "2022-07-24T18:45:33Z")

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> **[Alabama ranked in bottom 5 for education, study shows](https://www.cbs42.com/news/alabama-ranked-in-bottom-5-for-education-study-shows/)**
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> DOTHAN, Ala. (WDHN) — Alabama has been ranked 46th overall in education, according to a study by Wallethub. The study looked at 18 metrics to compare states on factors that contribute to a good edu…

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