# Child porn by any other name, I pit you. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 16, 2004, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-porn-by-any-other-name-i-pit-you/234636 "2004-03-16T14:52:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![hansel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6bbea6/32.png) [@hansel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hansel)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-porn-by-any-other-name-i-pit-you/234636/41 "2004-03-18T03:41:00Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Hebophile? The closest I can find in my dictionary (and I’ll admit it’s not like I’ve got an OED here in my dorm room) is hemophile, based purely on the possibility of a typo. The only thing I get for “hebo” has to do with Oregon. The only other thing I could think of, homophile, gets a hit as a symonym for homosexual. Not saying you’re lying, but I’m just curious since I’ve never heard this word. I would think that the term for sexual attraction to someone in or after puberty would be “normal”. My mistake: “hebephile” is the word (thank you, MoodIndigo1). And it means attraction to someone who’s gone through puberty, but isn’t yet an adult. Normal when you’re a teen, creepy as fuck when you’re a 45 year old investment banker looking at teen model sites. You know, there’s a whole “non-nude” pornography thing on the Internet that this seems tied into. Pictures of beautiful girls in states of almost undress. How sexually gratifying it is, I don’t know, but there are message boards for it and everything. ---
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-porn-by-any-other-name-i-pit-you/234636/42 "2004-03-18T03:53:04Z")
> [@](#): > > You know, there’s a whole “non-nude” pornography thing on the Internet that this seems tied into. Pictures of beautiful girls in states of almost undress. How sexually gratifying it is, I don’t know, but there are message boards for it and everything. One of the “wonders” of the internet… People with strange quirks that used to live a life of “quirk solitude” now have readily available “support groups” of people that share the same. ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-porn-by-any-other-name-i-pit-you/234636/43 "2004-03-18T03:56:15Z")
> [@Zabali\_Clawbane](#): > > [This site](http://www.debra-model.com/) from **Nurse Carmen** ’s link IS kiddie porn IMO at least. She’s 16, and in one of the pictures she had to shave in order to wear the bikini! If you really believe that woman is 16 I have this really nice bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you. I’ve seen women 30 years old who looked younger than that. Reminds me of the porn sites where it says “schoolgirls” and the “schoolgirl” is a grandmother in a sailor outfit. Then you go to “Asians” and you find a woman who is half black and half American Indian. Then you go to “virgins” and you see one who obviously has quite some experience. They are selling fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-porn-by-any-other-name-i-pit-you/234636/44 "2004-03-18T04:02:09Z")
> [@sailor](#): > > If you really believe that woman is 16 I have this really nice bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you. I’ve seen women 30 years old who looked younger than that. > > Reminds me of the porn sites where it says “schoolgirls” and the “schoolgirl” is a grandmother in a sailor outfit. Then you go to “Asians” and you find a woman who is half black and half American Indian. Then you go to “virgins” and you see one who obviously has quite some experience. They are selling fantasy. Oh, no! Most of the sixteen year old girls I know have had boob jobs! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-porn-by-any-other-name-i-pit-you/234636/45 "2004-03-18T04:02:34Z")
Ok, maybe it’s the water around here, but there are under 18 girls in high school in these parts that have that figure, and who do their make-up like that. They also have the same “dead eyes” another poster commented on. They dress in tight, skimpy clothes, but they don’t pose for such “classy” seductive photos. I don’t have a problem with eroticism, but I do have a problem with allowing an underage girl to “cash in” on her sex appeal to that degree. ---
**Author:** ![htns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@htns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/htns)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-porn-by-any-other-name-i-pit-you/234636/46 "2004-03-18T05:06:53Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > Out of curiosity, what image if Yasmeen Ghauri did you settle on for your wallpaper? The one of her in a very fetching tight black minidress, seducing the camera. Ghauri is an adult, so that’s within bounds. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-porn-by-any-other-name-i-pit-you/234636/47 "2004-03-18T14:35:05Z")
I guess it’s safe to assume that **htns** is not familiar with Kthanid. Reason I asked is the OP reminded me of a half-assed troll that I’ve encountered on Usenet. The nut bashes Kthanid every chance he gets and his latest MO was to insinuate Kthanid draws child porn. Put Kthanid in Google and you’ll see how ridiculous such an accusation is. ---
**Author:** ![htns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@htns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/htns)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-porn-by-any-other-name-i-pit-you/234636/48 "2004-03-18T16:09:06Z")
> [@Jeff Olsen](#): > > I guess it’s safe to assume that **htns** is not familiar with Kthanid. > > Reason I asked is the OP reminded me of a half-assed troll that I’ve encountered on Usenet. The nut bashes Kthanid every chance he gets and his latest MO was to insinuate Kthanid draws child porn. Put Kthanid in Google and you’ll see how ridiculous such an accusation is. Ah. First time I heard of Kthanid, sorry. Since I’ve never been on Usenet, that troll you’ve encountered can’t be me, see. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-porn-by-any-other-name-i-pit-you/234636/49 "2004-03-18T16:32:03Z")
> [@htns](#): > > Since I’ve never been on Usenet, that troll you’ve encountered can’t be me, see. 😉 Pity. We could use some entertainment around here after the Stormfront invasion. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2004, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-porn-by-any-other-name-i-pit-you/234636/50 "2004-03-18T22:50:00Z")
Ah, **Jeff Olsen** , I see you are a person of taste who frequents abnt and abpeco-a… but no, this one doesn’t quite remind me of _those_ lovely folk. After all, in this case there IS evidence at hand that some of those child-model sites can get quite exploitative, and I’ll presume s/he is a sensible person who can tell the difference between a drawing and a photograph and as stated in the very OP text, is rankled by the thin excuse for exploitation. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-porn-by-any-other-name-i-pit-you/234636/51 "2004-03-19T02:40:19Z")
The webmaster/photographer at TrueTeenBabes was arrested about a year and a half ago, and his site shut down. When he was arrested, the overzealous authorities handcuffed and hauled away some of his models, too. The arrest was made complete with TV cameras present. The Sherriff stood before the camera declaring that he had made the biggest child-porn bust in history. The photographer was charged with producing child porn. Eventually, he was acquitted on all charges, and is back in business. According to him, the 75+ models on the site all choose their own wardrobes, so that no girl needs to be any more revealing than she is comfortable with. It also seems that most of his models have gotten the idea themselves, and then talked their parents into letting them do it. Quite a number of girls have wanted to model for the site, only to have their parents refuse permission. So his models don’t seem to be victims of parental exploitation. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2004, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-porn-by-any-other-name-i-pit-you/234636/52 "2004-03-19T14:57:58Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Ah, **Jeff Olsen** , I see you are a person of taste who frequents abnt and abpeco-a… ABNT, yes. Not familiar with the other one. > [@](#): > > _I’ll presume s/he is a sensible person who can tell the difference between a drawing and a photograph and as stated in the very OP text, is rankled by the thin excuse for exploitation._ No doubt. I found similiarity in the style, not the content. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-porn-by-any-other-name-i-pit-you/234636.md?page=2)