# Child Support and the Stolen Sperm **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 25, 2005, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-support-and-the-stolen-sperm/314090 "2005-07-25T18:30:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-support-and-the-stolen-sperm/314090/41 "2005-07-29T20:14:07Z")
**Mr. 2001** > [@](#): > > Oh. I thought you meant she was a real rapist. She was a real rapist. Her victim was so young you couldn’t understand what happened and apparently needed years to get over the whole thing. I do not know whether she also used violence. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2005, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-support-and-the-stolen-sperm/314090/42 "2005-07-29T21:52:14Z")
The extraction of payment on the man is grossly unfair in this case. Its all very well to mention that the child should have rights to an income, but, what about the rights of any future children the man may have with another partner ? Those other children should not have to live in reduced circumstances because of the fraudulant activity of another person. On the reasoning shown by other posters, this woman could simply have forged papers from any client of the I.V centre and placed an obligation on the donor without their consent. If the woman wants payment, her obligation would have to be to cede some custody time to the man, but even that would have to be at his consent. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2005, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-support-and-the-stolen-sperm/314090/43 "2005-07-30T04:28:19Z")
> [@JohnBckWLD](#): > > (A search of the boards is coming up blank) Who recalls that story about the woman who snowballed her boyfriend(received his ejaculate / sperm orally, stored it her mouth, spit it out later)and used it later to impregnate herself? > **[Unauthorized use of sperm](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=304112)** > > This AP story found on the NY Times web site was pretty interesting. This couple had oral sex and the woman secretly saved the semen and used it to impregnate herself. The guy didn’t find out until two years later, when she filed a paternity suit,... ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-support-and-the-stolen-sperm/314090/44 "2005-07-30T15:46:04Z")
I guess I don’t get why nobody is pressing charges. She lied, cheated, and stole. If he doesn’t want to be excluded from his daughter’s life, he should: 1. Press charges; 2. Sue her (which he is doing); and 3. Seek custody (after all, mom is a felon). ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2005, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-support-and-the-stolen-sperm/314090/45 "2005-07-30T21:59:32Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#): > > No, my point is that the child now exists. And the father is known. So the parent is responsible for the child - even though he had no intent to father the child. He did not father the child. He was merely a sperm donor. He should be no more responsible for the welfare of than child than the doctor who delivered her. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-support-and-the-stolen-sperm/314090/46 "2005-07-31T16:24:01Z")
> [@](#): > > In court papers, Chaamel, an art teacher and truancy officer at Brooklyn’s Wingate HS, denies deceiving Deon. > > “For years, we have collectively attempted to conceive a child with the assistance of a fertility clinic,” she said in an affidavit. > > “He knew full well that I was continuing with our joint efforts.” [http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/50439.htm](http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/50439.htm) And apparently this is why she needed to forge his signature, steal a notary stamp, and lie to NYU. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-support-and-the-stolen-sperm/314090/47 "2005-07-31T17:14:40Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#): > > No, my point is that the child now exists. And the father is known. So the parent is responsible for the child - even though he had no intent to father the child. > . I could have made the same comment originally, but the points made by oter posters about sperm donnors and women putting their babies for adoption are good ones, IMO. So, I’m going to espouse the “he shouldn’t have to pay anything” stance. Ideally, though, she would lose custody to the father and would have to pay child support…Not going to happen but it would be poetic justice. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-support-and-the-stolen-sperm/314090/48 "2005-07-31T17:27:29Z")
At the very least, she really should have to pay back every penny the dad gives her in child support once the child is grown. ---
**Author:** ![CantUseMyRealName](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@CantUseMyRealName](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CantUseMyRealName)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-support-and-the-stolen-sperm/314090/49 "2005-08-01T15:10:35Z")
> [@flight](#): > > You can only say that with hindsight. The thought probably never crossed his mind. He probably just thought, “Well, don’t need that anymore,” and stopped paying. You would have to be super paranoid to suspect that your ex is going to FORGE DOCUMENTS in order to recover your sperm. This is the reason we are so stunned by this, no one expects it. perhaps I am more cautious than most people. i would have made a simple follow up call to be certain my contribution was destroyed, but again, maybe that’s just me and not the norm. however, this still doesn’t explain why he isn’t pressing criminal charges. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-support-and-the-stolen-sperm/314090/50 "2005-08-01T15:44:40Z")
> [@CantUseMyRealName](#): > > perhaps I am more cautious than most people. > > i would have made a simple follow up call to be certain my contribution was destroyed, but again, maybe that’s just me and not the norm. > > however, this still doesn’t explain why he isn’t pressing criminal charges. Well, they were married for 6 years. Maybe he still has some feelings for her. Maybe he doesn’t want the mother of a infant (that may or may not be his, depending on your point of view) to go to jail. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-support-and-the-stolen-sperm/314090.md?page=2)