# Child with SS parents barred from San Diego (private) school.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 30, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088 "2015-09-30T22:57:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/41 "2015-10-01T13:45:54Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Actually, a church sponsored school should be one that provides a loving, caring environment for all who attend, not just the kids with “straight” parents. What the fuck are they afraid of? I would like to see them wrestle Matthew 25:40.

I’m thinking maybe Mrs. Director might want to have a look at 1 Timothy 2:12 as well.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/42 "2015-10-01T13:57:41Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> So you’re under the impression they can refuse to admit black students if they want.

> [@Robert163](#):
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> Can a private school exclude a kid based upon race?

At least under federal law, yes. The only distinction is that the school may not bar students based on race if they receive any state assistance (for example, many states provide core textbooks to private schools regardless of religious affiliation, but they cannot provide them to segregated schools).

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/43 "2015-10-01T14:00:06Z")

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I wonder if they’d bar a child if they found out their mother had had an abortion?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/44 "2015-10-01T14:11:07Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Tell me I’m not the only person who clicked this thread to find out how the hell a kid could have 55 parents.

Ironically, two parents with 55 kids would probably have been welcomed.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/45 "2015-10-01T14:13:10Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> aren’t we all sinners based on 1 person eating 1 damn apple?

All sinners are equal, but some sinners are more equal than others.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/46 "2015-10-01T14:28:17Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> I wonder if they’d bar a child if they found out their mother had had an abortion?

It might depend on whether or not the mother had repented her sin. Two lesbians, married to each other, almost certainly have not.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/47 "2015-10-01T14:31:28Z")

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So if the parent who had 55 children and shot them all, with only one child surviving, repeats of their sin, the child and parent would be welcomed at the school? Unless they were homosexual?

Totally fucked up.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/48 "2015-10-01T14:45:11Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> So you’re under the impression they can refuse to admit black students if they want.

They can, if the school has fewer than 17 employees.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/49 "2015-10-01T14:48:56Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> So if the parent who had 55 children and shot them all, with only one child surviving, repeats of their sin, the child and parent would be welcomed at the school?

There might be some reasons, from a legal standpoint, where the school would not to take the risk, but from a CHRISTIAN standpoint? No. Do you not understand how Christianity is supposed to work?

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> Unless they were homosexual?

Active or repentant? Makes a difference.

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> Totally fucked up.

It’s religion. What do you expect? Christianity is also SUPPOSED to work where children do not bear the cost of the sins of their parents, so the school is not being very Christian here, even if the parents are active sinners. The child is not.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/50 "2015-10-01T14:54:28Z")

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OK, even with the revised handbook, what were the grounds for throwing the kid out? The revised handbook says that a school can refuse to admit someone who’s living a homosexual lifestyle, but the kid wasn’t doing that.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/51 "2015-10-01T15:01:23Z")

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It doesn’t say (or at least the excerpts that have been reported) that the conduct must be that of the student.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/52 "2015-10-01T15:07:51Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Love the sinner, hate the sin? Nope, we even hates the product of sin!

Well, the child obviously can’t be a product of \*\*that \*\*particular sin 😛

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/53 "2015-10-01T15:16:24Z")

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> [@Mikeisskeptical](#):
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> How much crummier can it get? I’d prefer my kids to be taught by random winos in the park than go to that school. If the consensus really is that this is legal, I am pretty surprised . Can a privately funded school really teach whatever it wants? Holocaust denial? White supremacy?

Yes, as long as they are not taking any public funds to support the school they are free to teach whatever they want. I worked in a Roman Catholic school years ago. They taught very bluntly that homosexuality was a sin (and all homosexuals would burn in hell for eternity). They also opposed birth control except for “natural family planning”. Parents who objected to this were offered partial refunds on the tuition and told to go elsewhere.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/54 "2015-10-01T15:19:30Z")

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This girl has idiots for parents. So maybe it’s appropriate that they enrolled her in a school run by idiots. But this really isn’t a story, we can find any number of odious practices in private institutions. This school is upholding it’s right to practice it’s own version of morality privately, ironically the same thing same sex couples have spent years fighting for the right to do as well.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/55 "2015-10-01T15:19:47Z")

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Apparently, the reviews are rolling in for thi wonderful school.

“The director for preschool is unprofessional and unchristian!”

“…hostile work environment the director facilitates in the Academy Preschool.”

“I would never allow my son go to the preschool!”

> **[Google](https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=mt%20erie%20christian%20school&lrd=0x80d953c571ae47f7:0xb2e2d750ff2a8f0e,1)**
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I’m betting the shit is has hit the fan with some admins there.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/56 "2015-10-01T15:21:31Z")

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I wonder if the parents are setting up a lawsuit, in hopes of  
[list=a][li]Making sexual orientation a protected classification[/li][li]Making the school change its curriculum so they cannot teach that homosexual behavior is a sin.[/list]They don’t even have to win the suit, just bankrupt the school defending itself as a warning to every other private school. [/li]  
Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/57 "2015-10-01T15:22:43Z")

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Even if sexual orientation was a protected classification the school would still be free to kick out the girl. So it’s pretty obviously not that.

> [@TriPolar](#):
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> This girl has idiots for parents.

What the fuck are you talking about? The school changed its rules _after_ they enrolled her. Unfortunately, most of the best schools are private, and most private schools are religious.

ETA: there’s [already](https://www.gofundme.com/mteriePTO) a GoFundMe. Supposedly it’s just for school activities but it was set up this week and shared on their Facebook page in the middle of discussion of this story.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/58 "2015-10-01T15:23:32Z")

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If that gets close to happening, we know what will happen. Someone will set up a GoFund me page and they’ll get $800k.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/59 "2015-10-01T15:38:35Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> I wonder if they’d bar a child if they found out their mother had had an abortion?

When I worked in a private Roman Catholic school we had a few cases like that. The children were students. They were told their mothers were murderers who had committed a mortal sin for which they would burn in hell for all eternity until they sought God’s forgiveness. Several parents reacted by removing their children from the school (the appropriate response). Private schools means their rules, don’t like those rules, don’t enroll your child in that school.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/child-with-ss-parents-barred-from-san-diego-private-school/733088/60 "2015-10-01T15:40:00Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> I wonder if the parents are setting up a lawsuit, in hopes of  
> [list=a][li]Making sexual orientation a protected classification[/li][li]Making the school change its curriculum so they cannot teach that homosexual behavior is a sin.[/list]They don’t even have to win the suit, just bankrupt the school defending itself as a warning to every other private school. [/li]  
> Regards,  
> Shodan

This is a horrible moment. I find myself agreeing with Shodan.

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