# Childfree is anti-natalism and anti-natalism is bigotry

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**Created:** [January 2, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childfree-is-anti-natalism-and-anti-natalism-is-bigotry/523443 "2010-01-02T22:53:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Crawlspace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Crawlspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crawlspace)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childfree-is-anti-natalism-and-anti-natalism-is-bigotry/523443/163 "2010-01-04T20:06:34Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> **I didn’t go out of my way. I didn’t need to. People were asking for respect in one thread while being actively insulting at the same time. I started a thread pointing it out.** I did some Google searches and every single forum I found had plenty of threads about how much people hated children, wished them dead and were pissed off that people spent money on their medical expenses. It wasn’t ‘out of my way’. It’s prominent, because that’s what childfree is about.

This isn’t true. You were the one who first called attention to the ‘childfree’ calling them radicals, use of the term PC fanaticism, the decision to define themselves in that manner odd, that there was a common chip on their shoulder, and had already come to the conclusion that what undergirds the childfree is a kind of bigotry that treats children as consumer products. This was all stated well before the discussion got raucous. [Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11898763&postcount=4). [Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11899370&postcount=42). [Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11899436&postcount=46).

> [@mswas](#):
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> But this is a straw man creation of the childfree. No one is asking for respect for the mere fact of having kids. At least no one I have ever known.

From the other thread:

> [@Ethical Implications of Remaining Childless By Choice](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ethical-implications-of-remaining-childless-by-choice/521653/235):
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> But, the fact of the matter is, if you do not have a recognition and deference to the position of parenthood in general, then your position isn’t merely that you do not want to have children. It is at its core, anti-natalist.

> [@mswas](#):
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> Anyway, I’ve made my point. Go ahead and live the fantasy that you are being oppressed by people who don’t really give your life any thought most of the time.

Post one instance of a CBC person in either these threads who has claimed to be oppressed.

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