# Childhood food misconceptions

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 31, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823 "2015-12-31T15:46:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/161 "2016-01-15T18:36:50Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#):
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> The names of lots of English dishes sounded really bizarre. There is some Christmas thing - not plum pudding - but something else that sounds very bizarre. Sorry, I can’t remember what it is now.

Spotted dick? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/162 "2016-01-15T18:41:37Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Spotted dick? :dubious:

Spotted Dick isn’t a Christmas thing. Figgy Pudding is though. From the lyrics to We Wish You a Merry Christmas:

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> Oh, bring us a figgy pudding;  
> Oh, bring us a figgy pudding;  
> Oh, bring us a figgy pudding and a cup of good cheer  
> We won’t go until we get some;  
> We won’t go until we get some;  
> We won’t go until we get some, so bring some out here

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/163 "2016-01-15T18:48:16Z")

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> [@RobDog](#):
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> Spotted Dick isn’t a Christmas thing.

Maybe not, but it sure sounds bizarre! :eek:

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/164 "2016-01-15T18:48:39Z")

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I had the misconception that [Yorkshire pudding](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorkshire_pudding) is anything like [chocolate pudding](http://www.finecooking.com/cms/uploadedimages/Images/Cooking/Articles/Issues_111-120/051115083-02-milk-chocolate-pudding-recipe_xlg.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_blistering_barnacle/32/3386_2.png) [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Blistering_Barnacle)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/165 "2016-01-15T19:36:30Z")

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> [@Jeff\_Lichtman](#):
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> When I first heard the term “soda fountain” I assumed it meant a drinking fountain that soda came out of. I had never seen one, but I knew they must exist somewhere, so I tested every drinking fountain I came across. My mother noticed this and asked what I was doing. When I explained, she told me the disappointing truth.

This! ☹

(My heart still gives a tiny flutter when I see the words to this day. And I don’t drink soda much anymore. It sounds so Willy Wonka.)

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**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/166 "2016-01-15T19:48:04Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Maybe not, but it sure sounds bizarre! :eek:

As much to us as it does to you, trust me!

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/167 "2016-01-15T19:49:52Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> **EW!** :eek: What Metro station was this???

It’s been nearly 20 years since I spent any time in Moscow, but the Metro at the train station going to Belarus and points west (Belorusski station?); IIRC the station was a hub with two different line meeting there. I remember being freaked out when the story broke because I ate there every day, but then I saw the woman who sold the ones I bought after news of the arrest so she wasn’t the cannibal cook (or at least, not the one that was caught).

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/168 "2016-01-15T19:50:38Z")

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> [@Jeff\_Lichtman](#):
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> When I first heard the term “soda fountain” I assumed it meant a drinking fountain that soda came out of.

Fun Fact: These got started in drug stores to mix soda water with medicinal syrups like Dr Pemberton’s Coca-Cola. They evolved into lunch counters and ice-cream parlors by the beginning of the 20th century.

The ice-cream sundae was invented to please the Temperance Movement, which objected to the use of soda water when making ice-cream sodas on the Sabbath: No mixer, please, just ice cream and syrup! These were originally known as “Sunday sodas.” The spelling was later changed to please the religious contingent in American society.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/169 "2016-01-15T19:59:11Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> I remember being freaked out when the story broke because I ate there every day, but then I saw the woman who sold the ones I bought after news of the arrest so she wasn’t the cannibal cook (or at least, not the one that was caught).

When I read your first post, I immediately thought of **this movie:**

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/oYunn4xfWYc/maxresdefault.jpg "The Mad Butcher (1971) - Trailer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYunn4xfWYc)

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/170 "2016-01-15T20:06:57Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> It’s been nearly 20 years since I spent any time in Moscow, but the Metro at the train station going to Belarus and points west (Belorusski station?); IIRC the station was a hub with two different line meeting there.

My ex was living there when we first met. There was also a Baskin–Robbins, a Canadian Bagel, a fried chicken place, and a hobby shop with model airplanes right around the corner.

I hung out there a lot! :o

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/171 "2016-01-15T20:38:50Z")

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When I was there (mid-90s) there was a huge ex-Soviet bakery next to the stop and everything smelled like sugar.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/172 "2016-01-15T23:51:30Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Maybe not, but it sure sounds bizarre! :eek:

Yorkshire Pudding. That’s the one.

Perhaps not as bizarre as I remembered. But there are many, many other bizarre British dishes.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/173 "2016-01-15T23:56:09Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#):
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> Yorkshire Pudding. That’s the one.

Yorkshire pudding is a Christmas dish? 😕 Don’t think so!

I love Yorkshire pudding with roast beef, brown gravy, and steamed peas. But it’s definitely not sweet. Just batter baked in beef fat.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/174 "2016-01-16T00:00:13Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> When I was there (mid-90s) there was a huge ex-Soviet bakery next to the stop and everything smelled like sugar.

That may have been where Canadian Bagel set up. Depends on which exit you used.

A few years back, they opened up a new exit 'way on the other side of the square/parking lot. You no longer have to navigate your way over Tverskaya aboveground, which was a real bitch once they closed the pedestrian tunnels for renovation.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/175 "2016-01-16T04:32:08Z")

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Wait a minute… I thought that the primary meaning of “pudding” was what we Americans call “dessert”, any sweet dish served after a meal. And the secondary meaning of “pudding”, which accounts for black pudding, white pudding, and the like, is anything boiled. But now you’re telling me that there’s also a non-sweet pudding that’s baked in fat? In what sense is that a “pudding”?

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/176 "2016-01-16T04:42:55Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Wait a minute… I thought that the primary meaning of “pudding” was what we Americans call “dessert”, any sweet dish served after a meal. And the secondary meaning of “pudding”, which accounts for black pudding, white pudding, and the like, is anything boiled. But now you’re telling me that there’s also a non-sweet pudding that’s baked in fat? In what sense is that a “pudding”?

That’s what YP is. You make a batter and pour it into a hot muffin tin that’s full of melted beef fat, then stick it in the oven. You eat the pastry with roast beef and gravy. It’s eggy, but not sweet.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/177 "2016-01-16T05:18:34Z")

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Yes, yes, I got that. But in what sense is it a pudding?

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/178 "2016-01-16T05:26:27Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Yes, yes, I got that. But in what sense is it a pudding?

Damned if I know! ☹

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/179 "2016-01-16T05:36:25Z")

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“Pudding” in this sense would seem to mean “side dish” instead of “dessert.” Maybe sweet puddings were once also considered side dishes, just served at the end of a meal.

Another example is bread pudding. Yes, you can have it for dessert, but you could also eat it along with poultry, for example.

Insofar as I have a best guess, that would be it.

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**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2016, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/childhood-food-misconceptions/741823/180 "2016-01-16T08:10:12Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> … Another example is bread pudding. Yes, you can have it for dessert, but you could also eat it along with poultry, for example.

Well, you _could_ insofar as there’s nothing actually stopping you, but you might well be the first person ever recorded as doing so.

You’re confusing bread pudding with bread sauce.

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