# Chilean miners nearing rescue and I'm feeling anxious

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 11, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803 "2010-10-11T17:52:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kilmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@Kilmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilmore)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/21 "2010-10-13T09:11:00Z")

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I wonder how many are saying “I ain’t never going down dat hole again.”

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**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/22 "2010-10-13T09:14:53Z")

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There’s a [live feed and video](http://tweetbeat.com/chilean-miners?sem=goog) if you wish to follow.

From what I read from some articles, it’ll be 1 hour per trip. So it will take them almost two days to get everyone up and out.

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**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/23 "2010-10-13T09:25:43Z")

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Not sure about my sources; the trip seems to take 15 minutes according to the CNN blog but I did remember reading it was one hour elsewhere.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/24 "2010-10-13T09:31:28Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> ETA: anyone else hear that no less than five mistresses have joined the wives at the mine head? After the euphoria has died down, that may require a little explaining…

Only may, it’s not unusual for the wife to know about the other women. Way back when my uncle worked in Brazil, they hit on a method to make sure the workers would be in on Monday: instead of giving the paycheck to the guy, they’d give it to his Head Woman (either official wife or mother). The women would make sure that all the guy’s women got their rightful part (generally a function of how many children each had by him) and get him to work on Monday. If they gave the money to the workers instead, it might not reach a single woman or child and the worker might not come to work until both the money and the hangover had run out. They had to stop doing this because it was, strictly speaking, illegal, but it worked like a charm.

I’ve seen situations in the last 10 years which make stories like that, or like Angela Mastretta’s tales (some of which involve the wife raising the children of the other women), seem perfectly ordinary.

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**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/25 "2010-10-13T10:00:00Z")

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Don’t worry about them- for people without claustrophobia that cage is no different than taking the bus.

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**Author:** ![Anaglyph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Anaglyph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaglyph)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/26 "2010-10-13T11:18:20Z")

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> [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](#):
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> Not sure about my sources; the trip seems to take 15 minutes according to the CNN blog but I did remember reading it was one hour elsewhere.

One hour is the time between one trip and the next, that is, the time needed to get zhe capsule down, load a passenger, haul him up, get him out and getting the capsule redy to send down again. 15 min is the time it takes to move the capsule from the bottom to the top.

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/27 "2010-10-13T11:42:18Z")

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While I’m thrilled they are being rescued, the whole being underground for 2 months story line doesn’t tweak me that much. We’ve got serviceman that are underwater for 3 months at a time on a routine basis in the submarine fleet. I know, it’s not quite the same but still think some of the hand wringing about the long term effects for these men are over the top.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/28 "2010-10-13T12:11:07Z")

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the second fellow mario was a bit enthusiastic.

upto number 11. things are going along nicely.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/29 "2010-10-13T12:14:15Z")

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i had heard about mistresses, trust the women on the view to know. there have been some tussles in the camps.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/30 "2010-10-13T14:02:37Z")

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> [@Kilmore](#):
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> I wonder how many are saying “I ain’t never going down dat hole again.”

I honestly think it’s more the case of “you’re never going down that hole again.”

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/31 "2010-10-13T14:26:03Z")

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> [@flickster](#):
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> While I’m thrilled they are being rescued, the whole being underground for 2 months story line doesn’t tweak me that much. We’ve got serviceman that are underwater for 3 months at a time on a routine basis in the submarine fleet. I know, it’s not quite the same but still think some of the hand wringing about the long term effects for these men are over the top.

Yeah, I’m sort of “meh” on the whole underground for 2 months thing. Compared to POWs who were probably confined to smaller spaces, treated to worse conditions, and imprisoned for years these miners were staying at a Hilton.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/32 "2010-10-13T15:05:45Z")

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The POW comparison is more apt than submariners (or astronauts on the space station, another confined space). It makes a big difference, not knowing how long you’ll be confined, or if you’ll ever see daylight again, and if you’re in the situation voluntarily.

Kudos to the engineers and everyone who worked things out so they got out safely.

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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/33 "2010-10-13T15:27:35Z")

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This is so, so wonderful!

What are these men going to do in the future, I wonder? Pensioned off? Going on speaking tours? Writing books? Sue the company?

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**Author:** ![3waygeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/e95f7d/32.png) [@3waygeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3waygeek)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/34 "2010-10-13T15:55:01Z")

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The BBC reported earlier this morning that the oldest of the 33 is 62, and had planned to retire in November. So I think it’s safe to say that at least one of them is never going back to mining.

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**Author:** ![cjepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@cjepson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cjepson)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/35 "2010-10-13T16:08:00Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> This is so, so wonderful!
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> What are these men going to do in the future, I wonder? Pensioned off? Going on speaking tours? Writing books? Sue the company?

I heard that they have made an agreement that they will all share equally in the rewards… supposedly, they actually asked a lawyer to draw up a document for them.

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**Author:** ![maladroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@maladroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maladroit)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/36 "2010-10-13T17:01:01Z")

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This is irrelevant, but the BBC audio [slider goes to 11](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11489439), we think it’s funny (I checked with the guys at work before posting). We’re streaming BBC News at work today, great job on the rescues.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/37 "2010-10-13T17:16:21Z")

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Well, at least CNN picked out some appropriately cheesy music to go along with the video. I guess reality is just too brutal to handle without turning it all into a fucking soap opera. Seriously, why the fuck do networks feel the need to do this? Can we not just let the events speak for themselves?

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**Author:** ![maladroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@maladroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maladroit)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/38 "2010-10-13T17:27:30Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Well, at least CNN picked out some appropriately cheesy music to go along with the video. I guess reality is just too brutal to handle without turning it all into a fucking soap opera. Seriously, why the fuck do networks feel the need to do this? Can we not just let the events speak for themselves?

I highly recommend BBc’s coverage, less fill, more content.

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**Author:** ![maladroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@maladroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maladroit)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/39 "2010-10-13T17:38:22Z")

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Did I hear they’ve got the round trip time down to half an hour? I mean, are they delivering a miner to the surface every half an hour now? I though tI’d heard that somewhere, can’t find it anywhere now.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chilean-miners-nearing-rescue-and-im-feeling-anxious/556803/40 "2010-10-13T17:41:52Z")

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> [@maladroit](#):
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> Did I hear they’ve got the round trip time down to half an hour?

Pretty much.

Someone on twitter was saying that they’ve become so conditioned to the standard Hollywood narrative that they are expecting some third-act peril to strike the remaining miners. I recognise this feeling.

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