# Chimera is a social justice warrior **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 16, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814 "2017-08-16T18:03:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/61 "2017-08-16T22:10:31Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Yeah I’m sure you prefer the term “colored people”. I am sure you are retarded. > [@BigT](#): > > Oh, and if you don’t want to come off as defending Nazis, you might not want to come in using a defense that would let them get away with being Nazis without consequence. > > Oh, and I believe **Bricker** can’t see what I’ve said. If you agree with me, feel free to quote me. > > Every time I think I can like **Bricker** again, I see him do something that demonstrates his lack of actual morals. Just got to find the excuse that attacks the liberal good guys. The liberal good guys? You all aren’t the Avengers. > [@running\_coach](#): > > [Some of them](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/18/opinion/why-trump-doubled-down-on-the-central-park-five.html) are from the right. Absolutely. There are criminals from every political party and ideology. I don’t think anyone has said otherwise. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > No, bad behavior should be criticized. The violence of last weekend was overwhelmingly the fault of the white supremacists, but those very few non-white-supremacists who assaulted any peaceful protesters (assuming there were any) should be criticized. The vast majority of criticism should go to the nazis and white supremacists. Why? Who initiated the violence? Whoever initiated the violence should get the majority of blame. And no, waving a flag, contrary to the meme-0-verse, is not initiating violence. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/62 "2017-08-16T22:18:09Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > What a bizarre and idiotic position to take - equating false arrests with mistakes in ‘outing’ Nazis. I know, right? We’re comparing someone who had a shitty weekend, through no fault of his own, to people who have died. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/63 "2017-08-16T22:20:06Z")
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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/64 "2017-08-16T22:23:56Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Why? Who initiated the violence? Whoever initiated the violence should get the majority of blame. And no, waving a flag, contrary to the meme-0-verse, is not initiating violence. Are you ever gonna actually try to find the answer to this? Here’s a hint: probably the guy who drove his car into a crowd of people. Probably the group of guys beating another man. Or are you just going to keep repeating the same bullshit over and over and over and over, because you’re SURE no one can see your blatant bigotry and attempts to shift the blame away from Nazis. Four days after a domestic terrorist attacked a group of protesters, you’re defending Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/65 "2017-08-16T22:29:18Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I can answer for myself, as I also assumed you were right wing. > > For one thing, you popped in and started talking about the Clintons, which have no relevance right now except in right wing circles that are still fixated on “lock her up” stuff. > > For another, I can’t figure out what relevance liberal racism has with this thread. **Chimera** was called an SJW because he is anti-Nazi. Those are the current racists right now. Why is historical racism by liberals at all relevant? > > It just reads too much like a _tu quoque_ argument, which would put you on the Right (since the “tu” is the Left). Those arguments are used a lot in these threads by right leaning Dopers. I think these are reasonable points actually, even though I think rereading the thread could lead to a different and more accurate interpretation. My wife got hot sauce in her eye so I couldn’t finish my post and it seems that the post I was working on (what you see upthread) just got automatically published after five minutes. I don’t have a strong opinion on Chimera either way, I just wanted to spice up my life a little by going into a pit thread. Pro tip - coconut milk does stop the burning sensation if you get hot sauce in your eye, not just regular milk. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/66 "2017-08-16T22:36:14Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Are you ever gonna actually try to find the answer to this? Here’s a hint: probably the guy who drove his car into a crowd of people. Probably the group of guys beating another man. > > Or are you just going to keep repeating the same bullshit over and over and over and over, because you’re SURE no one can see your blatant bigotry and attempts to shift the blame away from Nazis. Four days after a domestic terrorist attacked a group of protesters, you’re defending Nazis. The question is who initiated the attack. If you hit me with a club or a bat and I shoot you in self defense I’m probably not going to be charged. Now the dude who drove the car into those people when he didn’t have to should be charged with murder and whatever else the state thinks is relevant. But the initial melee? I don’t know who started the physical violence and if someone has good video of what initiated it I’d be glad to give it a look. Otherwise, I’ll let the state review the evidence and press charges as the state deems proper. What I won’t do is try and convict people on the internet. Sorry, I’m not part of your self-righteous mob. I’ll tell you this though. You’d much rather have me on a jury if you are charged with something than your irrational, overly emotional, dim-witted message board friends. And if that gets me labeled a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer so what? Oh no! Someone called me a name. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/67 "2017-08-16T22:38:41Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Absolutely. There are criminals from every political party and ideology. I don’t think anyone has said otherwise. You didn’t read the article, did you?Or are you agreeing with the Howling Yam that you believe the kids were guilty despite all the evidence that shows they weren’t? Or are you too cowardly to admit it? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/68 "2017-08-16T22:47:58Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > You didn’t read the article, did you?Or are you agreeing with the Howling Yam that you believe the kids were guilty despite all the evidence that shows they weren’t? > Or are you too cowardly to admit it? What’s the point of that one particular article? If someone was wrongfully convicted or whatever it’s bad. I’m not going to read random links that I think are irrelevant. If an injustice was done? Bad. There is nothing cowardly about my stance on any of that. As a matter of fact, whenever I participate in a thread about law enforcement abuse or perversions of justice such as civil forfeiture I consistently am on the side of respecting people’s civil rights. I am far more consistent on that topic than practically any of the nuts posting in the Pit lately. “herp derp Nazi11!” ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/69 "2017-08-16T22:50:20Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > You didn’t read the article, did you?Or are you agreeing with the Howling Yam that you believe the kids were guilty despite all the evidence that shows they weren’t? > Or are you too cowardly to admit it? octopus? He doesn’t actually care. He just wants to makes sure liberals get the blame for it. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/70 "2017-08-16T22:51:00Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I have a very low tolerance for people putting words in my mouth and then battering your own straw man. What I said is correct. It was a bad mistake and I’m very sorry this man was hurt. You said this - > [@](#): > > **If you are arguing that exposing actual Nazis is wrong because someone very unfortunately was hurt by idiots, then surely, based on the history of wrongdoing to black people in this country, you’ve spent your life protesting the profiling, false arrests and stop-and-frisk policies against them on the same grounds, correct?** It’s hardly “it was a bad mistake and I’m very sorry this man was hurt” comment. It reads more like ‘unless you criticized the history of wrongdoing to black people’ you need to shut the fuck up, or at the very least, keep your opinion to yourself.’ I hope your standards for declaring or brandishing (or worse) someone as a “true nazi” are more strict than you’re attempts at it here are, because that bar seems shockingly low. > [@Chimera](#): > > But hey, if you still want to play the ‘both sides bad’ card, then we all know which side you rest squarely on. Talk about attacking a strawman. I said nothing about both sides doing anything. I commented on your side - the infallible Nazi identifiers, needing to be damn sure they’re correct in their judgement calls. Like the one you mistakenly made with me. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/71 "2017-08-16T22:51:40Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > W **hat’s the point of that one particular article? If someone was wrongfully convicted or whatever it’s bad. I’m not going to read random links that I think are irrelevant.** If an injustice was done? Bad. > > There is nothing cowardly about my stance on any of that. > > As a matter of fact, whenever I participate in a thread about law enforcement abuse or perversions of justice such as civil forfeiture I consistently am on the side of respecting people’s civil rights. > > I am far more consistent on that topic than practically any of the nuts posting in the Pit lately. > > “herp derp Nazi11!” How do you know it’s irrelevant if you didn’t read it? ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/72 "2017-08-16T22:51:46Z")
> [@](#): > > Figure Two. Then I take it this place . . . > this Maple Street . . . is not unique. > Figure One (shaking his head ). By no means. > Their world is full of Maple Streets. And we’ll > go from one to the other and let them destroy > themselves. One to the other . . . one to the > other . . . one to the other— Nazi is the new commie. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/73 "2017-08-16T22:52:05Z")
> [@HeweyLogan](#): > > You said this - So you’re still putting words in my mouth to attack strawmen. Goodbye. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/74 "2017-08-16T23:12:44Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > This is like saying, "You oppose MRAs? I had one once, but I wouldn’t want to amke a steady diet of MREs. > [@Lemur866](#): > > You’re tolerant. So for all you know, there are good people on both sides, Nazi and anti-Nazi. No label is absolute. I’m tolerant, within reason, think that all Nazis are evil, and know that was a remarkably stupid comment for you to make. > [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > Nazi is the new commie. I thought it was the new alien. My kids were taught that ep in English class. ---
**Author:** ![HeweyLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heweylogan/32/547_2.png) [@HeweyLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeweyLogan)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/75 "2017-08-16T23:31:34Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > So you’re still putting words in my mouth to attack strawmen. Goodbye. I’m not trying to put words in your mouth at all, since after reading it a couple different times now, I don’t know what the fuck you’re trying to say up there. Since you adamantly say I’m not getting it right, I’ll concede I must not either and extend an apology for assuming it meant something you say it didn’t. It must be those Nazi colored glasses I’m wearing that’s doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/76 "2017-08-16T23:39:52Z")
…as the official designated Social Justice Warrior on these boards: I can categorically state that doxxing is bad. Don’t do it. It was bad when the wrong driver got doxxed after the Charlottesville attack. It was bad when Kyle Quinn got doxxed. It isn’t just the person who you are doxxing that gets hurt. Its the collateral damage: when innocent parents, children, family, schools, workplaces have to put up with threatening phone calls and get driven off the internet. I have no sympathy for nazis. But just as Trump is rightly being called a hypocrite for not calling out the white supremacists when he campaigned on using the words “radical islamic terror” we are hypocrites if endorse doxxing “approved targets.” I watched the rise of the alt-right. Nobody on these boards know how evil and how terrible they are than me. 3 years of goobergate. Watching what these scumbags shitfucks did. Doxxing is their weapon. It shouldn’t be ours. ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/77 "2017-08-16T23:40:28Z")
Keep up the good work, **octopus**! ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/78 "2017-08-16T23:42:50Z")
> [@Covfefe](#): > > Keep up the good work, **octopus**! Hey, the prodigal OP returns! And endorses the work of one of the biggest morons on the board! So how’d this thread work out for you? ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/79 "2017-08-16T23:43:30Z")
Not only did that twitter guy who doxxed all those people misidentify one guy…he intentionally painted a right wing guy who wasn’t even there as a nazi using a screenshot from months ago. I said something about Charlie Day is next…(see that one ep of Sunny) edit: I am in no way criticizing Chimera. Just the doxxing guy who used it for political purposes (going after a guy who wasnt there) ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814/80 "2017-08-16T23:48:40Z")
Hey, if that person gets sued for the damage he did by mis-identifying someone, I don’t have a lot of sympathy. Its called Defamation of Character. Like with firearms, one of the strict rules is to be aware of your target. You make damned sure of your target before you pull the trigger. And frankly, anyone threatening or harassing the families of these people should be charged as well. Their families did nothing to deserve it. But I’ll still say that every damned one of these Nazis should be publicly identified. If the ones who were threatening that synagogue were identified for all the world to see, I don’t think there would be quite so many willing to do it the next time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chimera-is-a-social-justice-warrior/793814.md?page=5)