# China Conquers US. Do you fight back?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 17, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493 "2021-06-17T22:03:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/1 "2021-06-17T22:03:27Z")

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China has some space lasers or something, the US government signs an unconditional surrender.

The Chinese rule us pretty much like they do in China. So economically not much changes. You keep your job and house etc.

Political dissent of course is quickly squashed. Non violent protest are brutally suppressed. But there is no wholesale rounding up of people/concentration camp type situation.

Do you join the armed resistance?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/2 "2021-06-17T22:09:14Z")

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> [@oldoaktree](#):
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> Do you join the armed resistance?

Under the conditions you laid out, that would be just suicide.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/3 "2021-06-17T22:13:18Z")

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Do we get universal health care?

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**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/4 "2021-06-17T22:14:42Z")

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Do they have that in China? i think they do so yes, you get UHC.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/5 "2021-06-17T22:17:28Z")

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Probably, yes. Given that I’m ethnically Chinese and have lived in America 20+ years, I’d probably be uniquely suited to helping the resistance.

> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Do we get universal health care?

Eh…yes but it won’t be fun, trust me.

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**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/6 "2021-06-17T22:21:55Z")

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We get the same stuff as China proper. UHC, subsidized housing for the poor, any other benefit. But we also get the same authoritarian rule.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/7 "2021-06-17T22:28:13Z")

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If my actions could trigger wholesale slaughter via space laser, I doubt I would participate in any kind of armed resistance. Against those odds, the only viable violent resistance is terrorism. Civil disobedience is more my speed.

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**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/8 "2021-06-17T22:29:25Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Civil disobedience is more my speed.

Civil disobedience is brutally suppressed.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/9 "2021-06-17T22:31:07Z")

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> [@oldoaktree](#):
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> Civil disobedience is brutally suppressed

As brutally as armed resistance?

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/10 "2021-06-17T22:31:13Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Under the conditions you laid out, that would be just suicide.

Doing nothing would be suicide. I couldn’t live under an authoritarian system. I don’t know what an old fart like me could do, but I’d definitely fight back.

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**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/11 "2021-06-17T22:32:25Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> As brutally as armed resistance?

Same level of brutality

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**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/12 "2021-06-17T22:38:22Z")

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I would join the resistance and fight back, but subversively. I would sabotage military installations and send viruses into their computer systems. In other words, make their lives miserable so much so that they would pull out rather than kill every last American looking for me.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/13 "2021-06-17T22:41:08Z")

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What if you knew every instance of sabotage would be answered with a space laser attack on a random town?

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**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/14 "2021-06-17T22:42:56Z")

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What if you knew every act of civil disobedience would be answered with a space laser attack on a random town?

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**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/15 "2021-06-17T22:43:41Z")

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That wouldn’t change a thing. The French resisted in WW2 knowing the Germans were destroying dozens of towns. You’re either in or out, there’s no middle ground.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/16 "2021-06-17T22:48:47Z")

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Then I’m out until one of you guys get me killed.

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**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/17 "2021-06-17T22:49:46Z")

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You got a bullet in the head for civil disobedience.

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Sponge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dark_sponge/32/121_2.png) [@Dark\_Sponge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dark_Sponge)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/18 "2021-06-17T22:51:27Z")

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I support the underground resistance.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/19 "2021-06-17T22:55:24Z")

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> [@oldoaktree](#):
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> You got a bullet in the head for civil disobedience.

That would probably go at least as far in advancing the cause than taking up arms…against freakin’ space lasers! I’m not convinced that a bunch of wannabe Wolverines are going to have a better chance of winning than the entire military might of the former United States.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/20 "2021-06-17T23:02:06Z")

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Since you’re postulating an impossible hypothetical, I’d answer with that the Average American would have more space lasers than the entire PLA combined. And with our freedoms, we know how to work them. We’d drive those ChiCom bastards back into the ocean toot sweet.

And that’s not counting Jewish Space lasers.

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