# China Conquers US. Do you fight back? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 17, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493 "2021-06-17T22:03:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/41 "2021-06-18T00:24:19Z")
> [@Chingon](#): > > Is there anything I can do to oppose the occupation > that won’t end with me getting killed? You could win > [@Chingon](#): > > Or is your real question “are you willing to commit certain suicide for the idea of freedom?” Are you willing to “risk” your death for the idea of freedom? Storming the beaches of Normandy probably wasn’t a good idea from a self preservation standpoint. ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/42 "2021-06-18T00:26:55Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Just how good are those space lasers? The space lasers only work on navy ships, ICBM sites, Air force bases, Army bases. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/43 "2021-06-18T00:27:53Z")
Ok I have my answer, I would right back and win. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/44 "2021-06-18T00:42:44Z")
> [@Ranch\_Dip](#): > > At least the Chinese don’t hide what they are about. There are large areas where independent travelers are refused entry. And many journalists have been expelled. But China is still far more free, in most places, than it was under Mao. The problem with the thread question is that everything depends on unknowable details concerning the nature of Chinese rule. Is it a pure one party state, as is the case now, or has it perhaps evolved more into a dominant party state, like Singapore? I’m too old to fight physically. But even if I was not, my nature would be to find a spot where I can safely push for gradual reform. Assuming there is one. One kind of resistance I honor the most is hiding non-violent people in danger of being sent to reeducation camps. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/45 "2021-06-18T00:47:09Z")
> [@oldoaktree](#): > > The space lasers only work on navy ships, ICBM sites, Air force bases, Army bases. Okay. In my magical world I can just wish the Chinese away. Or are you the only one allowed to make this shit up as you go? ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/46 "2021-06-18T00:47:59Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > As a college professor of mine used to say every opportunity he could, bad breath is better than no breath. Or to put it another way, better red than dead. I’d fight to the death, even if it means saving your professor’s sorry ass at the expense of my own. ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/47 "2021-06-18T00:54:04Z")
I am the only one allowed to make shit up as i go. Look, take the space lasers out of it. The US is conquered by a oppressive regime. What do you do? ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/48 "2021-06-18T01:00:41Z")
> [@oldoaktree](#): > > The space lasers only work on navy ships, ICBM sites, Air force bases, Army bases. Why would the government surrender under those conditions? ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/49 "2021-06-18T01:03:18Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Why would the government surrender under those conditions? > [@oldoaktree](#): > > Look, take the space lasers out of it. The US is conquered by a oppressive regime. What do you do? Rather than nitpick, answer the gist of the OP ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/50 "2021-06-18T01:07:17Z")
The gist of the OP is make a decision without enough facts to make a decision. Then the OP can imply anybody who doesn’t blindly throw themselves into the grist mill is an unpatriotic coward. ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/51 "2021-06-18T01:11:34Z")
Or one could make a logical argument for not joining the armed resistance. ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/52 "2021-06-18T01:13:00Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > without enough facts to make a decision what other facts would you like? ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/53 "2021-06-18T01:14:28Z")
> [@oldoaktree](#): > > what other facts would you like? Ones that don’t change half way through the thread. This stopped being fun once you ditched the space lasers. Bye! ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/54 "2021-06-18T01:16:59Z")
You were killed by a bullet to the head for non violent civil disobedience. You never addressed that. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/55 "2021-06-18T01:31:56Z")
> [@oldoaktree](#): > > what other facts would you like? How is it that armed resistance will win? What are the strategies and tactics and how will that cause the Chinese to pack up and leave? ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/56 "2021-06-18T01:33:56Z")
We don’t know. Whatever shall we do? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/57 "2021-06-18T01:36:21Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Do we get universal health care? I don’t know exactly, but health care, like much else, would be arranged in a way to foster divisions among the conquered people, so they would be less likely to rise as one against the occupiers. One possibility is an anti-natalist policy designed to keep down the number of potentially restive young Americans. So – free abortions, but big co-pays for lousy obstetrical care. For the same reason – fewer births – they would probably try to co-opt LGBTQ+. The government of China doesn’t rule the same way in every province, and would vary policies by region here as well. In progressive parts of the U.S. they would paint people fighting back as anti-Chinese racists who want to control women’s bodies. In Kansas, I’m not sure what the Chinese line would be. But it would be different. It is possible for rebels to agree on the need to overthrow the existing government without agreeing on much else. But a lot of Americans who today think they would join with the rebels would change their minds once they saw who the rebels were. ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/58 "2021-06-18T01:36:45Z")
I am not your leader. What would YOU do? ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/59 "2021-06-18T01:53:36Z")
> [@oldoaktree](#): > > We don’t know. Whatever shall we do? So in other words, it’s the same as the plan to grab a few guns and knock off a bank without knowing a damn thing about it. Sure! Let’s do it! What can go wrong? ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/60 "2021-06-18T01:56:54Z")
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