# China Conquers US. Do you fight back? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 17, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493 "2021-06-17T22:03:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/101 "2021-06-18T17:28:04Z")
> [@oldoaktree](#): > > Did they like it? Of course not. Well, that’s not “life as normal”. They were oppressed. And look up the Hungarian Revolution of 1956. ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/102 "2021-06-18T17:31:15Z")
> [@oldoaktree](#): > > yes people resist and there are uprisings occasionally from above ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/103 "2021-06-18T17:32:47Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Since there has been so much talk about China giving the conquered Americans UHC, it should be pointed out that the current healthcare system in China isn’t exactly a single-payer universal healthcare system. How dare you come into this thread with anything approaching an actual fact! This is a thread about abstruse hypotheticals powered by stoking fears of Fifth Column-esque overthrow and Chinese space lasers, not reality-based evidence or remotely plausible scenarios. And with apologies to @TokyoBayer, we don’t need any gamemaster; this a perfect scenario for [Fiasco](https://bullypulpitgames.itch.io/fiasco) (“A game about powerful ambition and poor impulse control,”) and I’m going to put together a new playset tonight. > [@panache45](#): > > And how many of today’s conservative senators and congresspeople you’d describe as “brave”? Well, for some values of [‘brave’](https://youtu.be/l8IkbCeZ9to) as evidenced by: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/capitol-riot-fanone-police/2021/05/05/1ce0404c-adef-11eb-ab4c-986555a1c511\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/capitol-riot-fanone-police/2021/05/05/1ce0404c-adef-11eb-ab4c-986555a1c511_story.html) and [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/jan-6-riot-capitol-police-house-republicans/2021/06/16/3ba60b7c-cee4-11eb-8cd2-4e95230cfac2\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/jan-6-riot-capitol-police-house-republicans/2021/06/16/3ba60b7c-cee4-11eb-8cd2-4e95230cfac2_story.html) Stranger ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/104 "2021-06-18T17:32:52Z")
And we would be oppressed in a China ruled US. Would you take up arms? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/105 "2021-06-18T17:40:36Z")
China will never take over the US. It’s neither desireable for China, nor possible. Even with Confucian space lasers. The cost of maintaining an occupation would be incredible. And to what end? Who would buy their stuff? But I’ll play - given a complete and utter takeover of the US by the Chinese, in a way where we still lived out our lives the same, but with univeral health care, but lost our freedoms in a manner similar to Hong Kong, yes I would be a resistance fighter. Those PLA soldiers can’t oppress us from safe military bases. They gotta sleep, eat, go to the bathroom, get laid somewhere where they are vulnerable. I wonder how many I could kill. Vive la résistance! ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/106 "2021-06-18T17:40:38Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > I’m curious how you know where each of us fits on the political spectrum. > > And how many of today’s conservative senators and congresspeople you’d describe as “brave”? Rightish independent. I don’t trust politicians and i cant think of one that inspires me. Was a fan of John McCain. Mitt Romney seems to have some balls. ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/107 "2021-06-18T17:44:15Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > China will never take over the US. It’s neither desireable for China, nor possible. Even with Confucian space lasers. The cost of maintaining an occupation would be incredible. And to what end? Who would buy their stuff? I think it was fairly obvious with the Space Laser thing that this was a outlandish hypothetical. I don’t why people keep trying to debate the existence of space lasers. > [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > But I’ll play That’s all i’m asking for ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/108 "2021-06-18T17:50:54Z")
> [@oldoaktree](#): > > I don’t why people keep trying to debate the existence of space lasers. Because, without the thread of unpreventable death from above, there’s no way the PLA could take over the US. And, there’s nothing to keep the militia types in check. We can laugh at the play soldiers pretending to be heroes, but they really do have guns and ammo. Fighting the PLA in Montana isn’t the same as fighting the US military in Montana. Where are the PLA going to get reinforcements and supplies? Buy them at Bass Pro Shops? How many tanks and APC did they bring over? How many planes? The French did pretty good killing Germans. Even with the threat of torture and murder, by freakin’ Nazis, no less. ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/109 "2021-06-18T17:57:27Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Because, without the thread of unpreventable death from above, there’s no way the PLA could take over the US. And, there’s nothing to keep the militia types in check. We can laugh at the play soldiers pretending to be heroes, but they really do have guns and ammo. Fighting the PLA in Montana isn’t the same as fighting the US military in Montana. Where are the PLA going to get reinforcements and supplies? Buy them at Bass Pro Shops? How many tanks and APC did they bring over? How many planes? It is a fantastical hypothetical. China has conquered the US. Would you fight? You said yes. I think it would be more interesting to hear why you would fight, rather than debate space lasers. i think there is another thread about Chinese Military capabilities. In this thread, however improbable, China has conquered the US. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/110 "2021-06-18T18:02:19Z")
> [@oldoaktree](#): > > You said yes. I would fight in the resistance if trumpicans took over, turned congress into a puppet, removed voting rights, installed trump as fascist dictator for life (with inherited power) and started rounding up Democrats for reeducartion camps. It would be worth it, killing so-called “patriots”, as long as I could last. But that’s not going to happen, either. ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/111 "2021-06-18T18:07:32Z")
Ok well i guess i’ll keep you in the “hell yeah i’d fight” list. ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/112 "2021-06-18T18:09:03Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > But that’s not going to happen, either. For like like the tenth time. “I know China does not have Space Lasers and this is a silly premise” ---
**Author:** ![Bonum\_Legatum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bonum_legatum/32/6183_2.png) [@Bonum\_Legatum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonum_Legatum)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/113 "2021-06-18T18:15:54Z")
\*\*Someone has to say it: What do you mean “conquers”? We’ve already been conquered. \*\* OK - getting back to the hypothetical, I’d like to point out a few things. My ignorance, but can someone draw parallels and differences between the hypothetical and the repatriation of Hong Kong or the events in Tibet? I’ve read that Charles de Gaulle was well aware that most French people got along as best he or she could under WWII occupation, up to and including outright collaboration. He thought that this would leave France torn apart, so he used the example of the Resistance fighters to create a heroic archetype - to create a myth of history - “everyone was in the resistance”. ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/114 "2021-06-18T18:30:08Z")
Is this list correct? Hell yeah I’d fight: Velocity Panach45 Dolphinboy Dark Sponge Noelq Just asking questions The “would not fight list” is a harder to figure out. Some just didnt like the OP and never really gave an answer. but im guessing they are a no. ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/115 "2021-06-18T18:35:22Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Am I understanding you right? Are you saying that life was “normal” in eastern Europe under the Soviets? Excuse me? Go talk to a Romanian, a Hungarian, a Pole, hell, an East German, let alone Latvians, Estonians, and Lithuanians. Ukranians. Georgians. Any-stanians. Then get back to us. > [@Bonum\_Legatum](#): > > I’ve read that Charles de Gaulle was well aware that most French people got along as best he or she could under WWII occupation, up to and including outright collaboration. He thought that this would leave France torn apart, so he used the example of the Resistance fighters to create a heroic archetype - to create a myth of history - “everyone was in the resistance”. I think this quote probably applies to Soviet Bloc countries too. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/116 "2021-06-18T18:51:41Z")
> **[Thread Games](https://boards.straightdope.com/c/thread-games/28)** > > In which the thread is the game. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/117 "2021-06-18T18:56:15Z")
Are you recruiting or reporting to the Chinese overlords? ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/118 "2021-06-18T19:09:27Z")
They already have your name. Would you take up arms? ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/119 "2021-06-18T19:13:33Z")
What’s a thread game? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/120 "2021-06-18T19:15:11Z")
That’s not ominous at all. Do you have like a clipboard with our names on them, and you are checking off the boxes of those you feel may be a problem? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493.md?page=7)