# Cho an Icon?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 20, 2007, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868 "2007-04-20T00:35:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Operation\_Ripper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@Operation\_Ripper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Operation_Ripper)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/1 "2007-04-20T00:35:55Z")

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The first “sympathetic” articles are starting to appear, [here](http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070419/D8OJTJD02.html), among others. With the pics disseminated by NBC, how long do you think until we start seeing t-shirts ala Guevara?

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**Author:** ![Traveling\_Riverside\_Bluesman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Traveling\_Riverside\_Bluesman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Traveling_Riverside_Bluesman)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/2 "2007-04-20T01:10:25Z")

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1. That article is in no way sympathetic to him.

2. T-shirts aren’t gonna happen.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/3 "2007-04-20T01:13:45Z")

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[Cho on t-shirts](http://margaretcho.com/shop/chechoshirt.gif)

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**Author:** ![Traveling\_Riverside\_Bluesman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Traveling\_Riverside\_Bluesman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Traveling_Riverside_Bluesman)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/4 "2007-04-20T01:18:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
[Cho on t-shirts](http://margaretcho.com/shop/chechoshirt.gif)  
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You got me. I concede defeat. 😛

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**Author:** ![Traveling\_Riverside\_Bluesman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Traveling\_Riverside\_Bluesman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Traveling_Riverside_Bluesman)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/5 "2007-04-20T01:20:18Z")

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Damn, no edit for guests! Admit defeat!

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**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/6 "2007-04-20T01:44:54Z")

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Cafepress already has a [Cho](http://www.cafepress.com/buy/cho+hui/-/pv_design_prod/pg_1/p_storeid.125829964/pNo_125829964/id_18940384/opt_/fpt_/c_360/) shirt. No picture of him on it, but the reference is obvious. It’s being described as a gun control shirt.

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/7 "2007-04-20T01:55:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
[Cho on t-shirts](http://margaretcho.com/shop/chechoshirt.gif)  
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I really, really hope that we’re all aware that that shirt depicts comedian Margaret Cho.

I know that **Otto** knows it, because it’s taken from her website.

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**Author:** ![Traveling\_Riverside\_Bluesman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Traveling\_Riverside\_Bluesman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Traveling_Riverside_Bluesman)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/8 "2007-04-20T02:01:47Z")

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I sure am. But still, even if I’m wrong and he really does appear on t-sirts, it’s not going to be in the same way as Che. A few jerks will wear them to shock people, and that’ll be about it.

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**Author:** ![Operation\_Ripper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@Operation\_Ripper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Operation_Ripper)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/9 "2007-04-20T02:26:09Z")

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Heck, Che, Mao, etc. murdered a lot more people, why you think Cho won’t be different with the viral tech we got today?

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**Author:** ![Mbossa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@Mbossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mbossa)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/10 "2007-04-20T03:59:19Z")

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Maybe because Cho isn’t really symbolic of the uprising of the working class to overthrow the bourgeois oppressors.

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**Author:** ![Operation\_Ripper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@Operation\_Ripper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Operation_Ripper)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/11 "2007-04-20T04:09:43Z")

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Guy, he will be projected by elements of our society as symbolic of the oppressed striking a blow against the oppressors, do you need me to paint you a pic?

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**Author:** ![Traveling\_Riverside\_Bluesman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Traveling\_Riverside\_Bluesman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Traveling_Riverside_Bluesman)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/12 "2007-04-20T05:21:33Z")

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Not beyond a few wackos, he will not. Ever.

He will continue to be seen as a pathetic person who commited a horrible act of shocking violence, and the took his own life. There will be no masses of supporters, no political or social movement, no nothing. People will treat him the same as they did the Columbine killers.

What social movement has them as its heroes? The truth is, except for to a few pathetic people, he will be seen as a pathetic, violent attacker who took many innocent lives. Other horrible people, like the KKK and the Neo-nazis, will have more followers than Cho will, many hundreds of times over.

He will not be a martyr to anyone, any more so than any other school shooter will.

Do you need me to paint you a picture?

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/13 "2007-04-20T06:27:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Traveling Riverside Bluesman]  
Do you need me to paint you a picture?  
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I think you’d be glorifying his image if you did that.

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**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/14 "2007-04-20T10:10:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Rigamarole]  
I think you’d be glorifying his image if you did that.  
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Not to mention that it would be a stonable offence under the blasphemy laws of the new religion I’ve decided to create especially for this thread.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/15 "2007-04-20T14:04:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Nancarrow]  
Not to mention that it would be a stonable offence under the blasphemy laws of the new religion I’ve decided to create especially for this thread.  
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So, do you have to post in this thread to be a member of this new religion?

If so, may I be pope?

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**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/16 "2007-04-20T14:54:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Nancarrow]  
Not to mention that it would be a stonable offence under the blasphemy laws of the new religion I’ve decided to create especially for this thread.  
[/QUOTE]  
When’s the Resurrection due?

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/17 "2007-04-20T18:58:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Nancarrow]  
Not to mention that it would be a stonable offence under the blasphemy laws of the new religion I’ve decided to create especially for this thread.  
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[QUOTE=Kyla]  
So, do you have to post in this thread to be a member of this new religion? If so, may I be pope?  
[/QUOTE]  
I like **Nancarrow** ’s ideas and _only_ want to subscribe to the newsletter. Is there a free t-shirt for subscribing?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2007, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cho-an-icon/400868/18 "2007-04-20T20:13:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Traveling Riverside Bluesman]  
Do you need me to paint you a picture?  
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Will you print it on a t-shirt?
