# Chocolate Milk

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** soda-softdrinks\
**Created:** [January 10, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121 "2011-01-10T18:42:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Corner\_Case](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/corner_case/32/234_2.png) [@Corner\_Case](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corner_Case)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/21 "2011-01-10T19:33:39Z")

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We toasted with strawberry milk at our wedding! Our twice a week grocery store visits usually involve buying 3 to 5 gallons of milk. I don’t give it a second thought if I want to order it at a restaurant.

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/22 "2011-01-10T19:42:09Z")

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The only time a guy should order milk when going out is if he’s at a bar and he’s a superhero. But that’s straight milk. No self respecting superhero would cut it with chocolate syrup.

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**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/23 "2011-01-10T19:46:23Z")

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It’s fine. Not that I order milk at a restaurant, unless having french toast. White milk from restaurants often tastes off.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/24 "2011-01-10T19:46:54Z")

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You missed your chance to make him laugh and squirt it out his nose.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/25 "2011-01-10T19:48:51Z")

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> [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> Just having some Monday morning fun on some anonymous guy’s expense. It’s not like I called the foodie police on him.

So now everybody gets to make fun of you because you said something this silly on a public thread.

Ain’t karma great? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Woodhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@Miss\_Woodhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Woodhouse)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/26 "2011-01-10T19:49:36Z")

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I’m just stuck on cocoa not being appropriate to order at a restaurant. Why the heck is it on the menu then? I find coffee vile and disgusting. Cocoa with whipped cream OTOH is delicious and perfect on a winter day. Why is suddenly less perfect to drink it in public at a _gasp_ restaurant?

Is it not appropriate because it’s sweet? Does this mean you judge people who order sodas in restaurants? Or put sugar in their coffee?

Some people have some really weird ideas about how the world ought to work.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/27 "2011-01-10T19:50:38Z")

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I not only would not have thought it silly, I probably would have ordered a glass, too. I don’t care what people see me drink when I’m out to eat.

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**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/28 "2011-01-10T19:54:14Z")

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Wait, it’s not cool to drink chocolate milk in public? Then consider me not cool, I order it with breakfast all the time. It goes great with hashed browns and bacon.

Also if they served egg nog I’d order that too.

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/29 "2011-01-10T19:55:23Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> So now everybody gets to make fun of you because you said something this silly on a public thread.
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> Ain’t karma great? 🙂

This silly thread has hes helped keep me from doing productive work for almost an hour now! I’m calling it a success.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/30 "2011-01-10T19:58:34Z")

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All of those cold chocolate-y drinks at Starbucks are for the grownups who really want chocolate milk.

My hat’s off to the guy for ordering what he wanted without giving any consideration to what people around him might think.

What takes more _cojones_? Ordering choco milk if you want it, OR saying to yourself, “Gee, I really want some, but if I order it, someone might see me and my nads might shrink.” Geez.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/31 "2011-01-10T20:04:13Z")

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> [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> Also delicious but not appropriate when you’re eating out, IMO.

Out of curiosity, what’s the rule here? What criteria are you using to determine what is, or is not, appropriate for someone to order when eating out?

I would submit that there are real problems with the suggestion that it’s inappropriate for an adult to order hot chocolate. For one thing, there are a number of places that pretty explicitly target adults and sell the stuff. Starbucks, for example. Or, in DC, Pitango Gelato sells a very rich “sipping chocolate” for four bucks a cup. If pressed, I could probably name a half-dozen trendy nightspots that sell the stuff in wintertime, with or without alcohol.

Children don’t generally buy high-end hot chocolate, and they certainly don’t (or shouldn’t!) be buying it in bar/cafes at midnight. This stuff is being sold to adults, and is meant to be sold to them.

As for chocolate milk - I’m not a fan (and wasn’t, even as a kid), but the very similar coffee milk is the official state drink of Rhode Island. At least one of the dining halls at my RI college made a point of keeping the stuff in stock, and I liked it. So did plenty of other undergrads. I’d have a hard time accepting the premise that coffee milk is an acceptable beverage for adults, or that _hot_ chocolate is an acceptable beverage for adults, but chocolate milk is unacceptable.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/32 "2011-01-10T20:05:13Z")

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> [@Cluricaun](#):
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> Wait, it’s not cool to drink chocolate milk in public? Then consider me not cool, I order it with breakfast all the time. It goes great with hashed browns and bacon.
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> Also if they served egg nog I’d order that too.

Hmm. Haven’t tried it with hash browns and bacon, but that makes sense. I’ll give it a shot next time I go out for breakfast - thanks!

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/33 "2011-01-10T20:17:45Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> Out of curiosity, what’s the rule here? What criteria are you using to determine what is, or is not, appropriate for someone to order when eating out?
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> I would submit that there are real problems with the suggestion that it’s inappropriate for an adult to order hot chocolate. For one thing, there are a number of places that pretty explicitly target adults and sell the stuff. Starbucks, for example. Or, in DC, Pitango Gelato sells a very rich “sipping chocolate” for four bucks a cup. If pressed, I could probably name a half-dozen trendy nightspots that sell the stuff in wintertime, with or without alcohol.
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> Children don’t generally buy high-end hot chocolate, and they certainly don’t (or shouldn’t!) be buying it in bar/cafes at midnight. This stuff is being sold to adults, and is meant to be sold to them.
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> As for chocolate milk - I’m not a fan (and wasn’t, even as a kid), but the very similar coffee milk is the official state drink of Rhode Island. At least one of the dining halls at my RI college made a point of keeping the stuff in stock, and I liked it. So did plenty of other undergrads. I’d have a hard time accepting the premise that coffee milk is an acceptable beverage for adults, or that _hot_ chocolate is an acceptable beverage for adults, but chocolate milk is unacceptable.

Those fancy hot chocolates are okay. The average hot cocoas with tiny marshmallows aren’t.

Chocolate milk is something kids would drink at school with their lunch. I didn’t have a criteria when going for breakfast earlier today and I probably don’t have one now but his order of that drink reminded me of the kids at school drinking chocolate milk with their breakfasts.

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**Author:** ![Mixolydian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Mixolydian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mixolydian)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/34 "2011-01-10T21:31:17Z")

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Did he get an order of pancakes with whipped cream and fruit done up in a smiley face too?

Seriously, chocolate milk rocks; I wouldn’t heisitate to order it in a restaurant if I could still drink it ☹

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**Author:** ![Maiira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Maiira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maiira)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/35 "2011-01-10T22:09:55Z")

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If I have a hankering for chocolate milk, then you can bet I’ll order it in a restaurant. The only thing that matters is whether or not I’m enjoying it.

Actually, I haven’t had real chocolate milk in years. I’ve come to prefer chocolate Silk, which is odd because normally I hate milk substitutes, but chocolate Silk is more…well…_chocolatey_. If I could order it in a restaurant, I’d do it in a heartbeat.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/36 "2011-01-10T22:17:05Z")

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> [@Miss\_Woodhouse](#):
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> I’m just stuck on cocoa not being appropriate to order at a restaurant. Why the heck is it on the menu then? I find coffee vile and disgusting. Cocoa with whipped cream OTOH is delicious and perfect on a winter day. Why is suddenly less perfect to drink it in public at a _gasp_ restaurant?
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> Is it not appropriate because it’s sweet? Does this mean you judge people who order sodas in restaurants? Or put sugar in their coffee?
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> Some people have some really weird ideas about how the world ought to work.

I can’t believe no one’s mentioned the famous “milk at a bar” train wreck

It starts here [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=302338&pp=50&page=10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=302338&pp=50&page=10) and goes on to spawn a Pit thread here [Shagnasty and the Worst Anecdote in SDMB History - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=302800)

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/37 "2011-01-10T22:24:24Z")

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> [@Mixolydian](#):
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> Did he get an order of pancakes with whipped cream and fruit done up in a smiley face too?
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> Seriously, chocolate milk rocks; I wouldn’t heisitate to order it in a restaurant if I could still drink it ☹

No he had a open faced roast beef sandwich. Looked good too but it was paired with the chocolate milk.

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> Actually, I haven’t had real chocolate milk in years. I’ve come to prefer chocolate Silk, which is odd because normally I hate milk substitutes, but chocolate Silk is more…well…chocolatey. If I could order it in a restaurant, I’d do it in a heartbeat.

I agree. the chocolate flavored milk substitutes are surprisingly very good.

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**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/38 "2011-01-10T22:26:46Z")

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> [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> I agree. the chocolate flavored milk substitutes are surprisingly very good.

Unless it is that Choc-O-Riffic stuff, which is made with industrial sludge from Bhopal and tries to pretend it’s chocolate milk, but in reality it’s a Digestion Ruiner.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/39 "2011-01-10T22:28:49Z")

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> [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> No he had a open faced roast beef sandwich. Looked good too but it was paired with the chocolate milk.

Which suggests that the restaurant in question was closer to a diner or a “family restaurant” than to a white-tablecloth restaurant. I would have considered it more unusual if it’d been at the latter, but, at a place where you might well be able to get a milkshake to drink with dinner, is a glass of chocolate milk that unusual?

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chocolate-milk/567121/40 "2011-01-10T22:36:47Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> He gets cool points because he ordered what he wanted and didn’t care what you or anyone else thought about it.

Damn straight. I haven’t had a good chocolate milk in years. Next time we go out, it’s gonna be right there!

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