# Chomsky a chump???(He appeals to CIA false flag operation on behalf of hostages) **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 3, 2005, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chomsky-a-chump-he-appeals-to-cia-false-flag-operation-on-behalf-of-hostages/333931 "2005-12-03T19:25:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![bizzwire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@bizzwire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bizzwire)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chomsky-a-chump-he-appeals-to-cia-false-flag-operation-on-behalf-of-hostages/333931/21 "2005-12-03T23:29:14Z")
> [@alaricthegoth](#): > > well it would certainly have been more comprehensible had I done so. > > I was, however, trying to highlight what I take to be the improbability that as a matter of policy the agencies of our government refuse to undertake such operations. Ya know, if yoou took out the double negatives and flowery hyperbole, you would be much more intelligible. Let me show you: > [@alaricthegoth](#): > > yes, I should have done that. > > I was, however, trying to point out that agencies of our government probably do these kind of things. ---
**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chomsky-a-chump-he-appeals-to-cia-false-flag-operation-on-behalf-of-hostages/333931/22 "2005-12-04T00:00:52Z")
> [@bizzwire](#): > > Ya know, if yoou took out the double negatives and flowery hyperbole, you would be much more intelligible. > > Let me show you: There is nothing like an editor who works for free, but I think my original more clearly conveyed the thrust I was seeking…However, don’t let me inhibit your ameliorative instincts–feel free to volunteer style changes anytime you find yourself moved to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Atticus\_Finch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Atticus\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atticus_Finch)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chomsky-a-chump-he-appeals-to-cia-false-flag-operation-on-behalf-of-hostages/333931/23 "2005-12-04T00:18:19Z")
> [@alaricthegoth](#): > > There is nothing like an editor who works for free, but I think my original more clearly conveyed the thrust I was seeking…However, don’t let me inhibit your ameliorative instincts–feel free to volunteer style changes anytime you find yourself moved to do so. Free editors are great, but I prefer my version…don’t let that stop you, feel free to suggest changes. ---
**Author:** ![Atticus\_Finch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Atticus\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atticus_Finch)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chomsky-a-chump-he-appeals-to-cia-false-flag-operation-on-behalf-of-hostages/333931/24 "2005-12-04T00:19:23Z")
> [@Atticus Finch](#): > > Free editors are great, but I prefer my version…don’t let that stop you, feel free to suggest changes. Hope that didn’t come out too snarkily - just a bit of light teasing. ---
**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chomsky-a-chump-he-appeals-to-cia-false-flag-operation-on-behalf-of-hostages/333931/25 "2005-12-04T00:26:29Z")
> [@Atticus Finch](#): > > Hope that didn’t come out too snarkily - just a bit of light teasing. Usually I will go with the more economic version–Here, however, I fear your redaction lacks some of the “overtones” (as it were) of my response. ---
**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chomsky-a-chump-he-appeals-to-cia-false-flag-operation-on-behalf-of-hostages/333931/26 "2005-12-04T00:30:31Z")
Points of style aside, am I to conclude that the board consensus favors the proposition that our government would not hesitate to kidnap and murder as part of a broad disinformation campaign? ---
**Author:** ![Hoodoo\_Ulove](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/58956e/32.png) [@Hoodoo\_Ulove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoodoo_Ulove)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chomsky-a-chump-he-appeals-to-cia-false-flag-operation-on-behalf-of-hostages/333931/27 "2005-12-04T01:27:27Z")
> [@alaricthegoth](#): > > Points of style aside, am I to conclude that the board consensus favors the proposition that our government would not hesitate to kidnap and murder as part of a broad disinformation campaign? Well, maybe kidnap and murder, but WE DO NOT TORTURE! ---
**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chomsky-a-chump-he-appeals-to-cia-false-flag-operation-on-behalf-of-hostages/333931/28 "2005-12-04T01:30:57Z")
> [@Hoodoo Ulove](#): > > Well, maybe kidnap and murder, but WE DO NOT TORTURE! I think that is fair. After all, a swift sweep with a sharp knife inserted between the fourth and fifth cervical vertebrae can hardly be called torture. The whole thing is over before you really know it… ---
**Author:** ![bizzwire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@bizzwire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bizzwire)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chomsky-a-chump-he-appeals-to-cia-false-flag-operation-on-behalf-of-hostages/333931/29 "2005-12-04T19:57:27Z")
> [@alaricthegoth](#): > > Points of style aside, am I to conclude that the board consensus favors the proposition that our government would not hesitate to kidnap and murder as part of a broad disinformation campaign? No…I think they do it cause they just like it! ---
**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chomsky-a-chump-he-appeals-to-cia-false-flag-operation-on-behalf-of-hostages/333931/30 "2005-12-04T22:34:04Z")
[QUOTE=bizzwire] No…I think they do it cause they just like it![/QUOTE And they call ME a cynic… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chomsky-a-chump-he-appeals-to-cia-false-flag-operation-on-behalf-of-hostages/333931.md?page=1)