# Choose between immediate death, and forever hating the person you now love most. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 2, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485 "2013-07-02T21:43:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/21 "2013-07-03T05:10:23Z")
Although I voted in the poll, the scenario in the OP is completely impossible. [spoiler] > [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > But it’s not Rhymer Enterprises this time; it’s one of our competitors, a group with similar technomagic resources but fewer scruples. No one has less scruples than Rhymer Enterprises. Oh. That may shoot my chances at pie. Never mind. I’d sell the truth for dessert and thus have less scruples than RE, so the above statement isn’t true.[/spoiler] That said, I grew up in a household with a psychotic parent who was incapable of love for any of his children, and we’re all still dealing with the emotional mess. Drop me in. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/22 "2013-07-03T13:10:52Z")
**Skald** , are the results consistent with your expectations so far? ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/23 "2013-07-03T13:35:47Z")
I love my SO more than anything. But, make me hate him. Life is far too sweet and fleeting and there are other loves out there. I’d be sorry to break his heart, but we could manage. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/24 "2013-07-03T13:38:28Z")
Death before dishonoring Madame Pepperwinkle’s memory! And a nice piece of coconut cake before I go? Cake and death! ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/25 "2013-07-03T13:46:07Z")
I HATE cake, why can’t you understand this? To make amends for this you need to deliver to me a Fresh Banana Cream Cheesecake from the Cheesecake Factory. Have one of your Himbo bots deliver it to me. PM me and I’ll give you my address. As to the OP, I don’t actually love any one. I do care about 2 people and don’t want to see them hurt, but I also look forward to death, so… Lava after cheesecake. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/26 "2013-07-03T13:57:44Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Death before dishonoring Madame Pepperwinkle’s memory! And a nice piece of coconut cake before I go? Cake and death! OMG it’s coconut cake. Yuck. Ptooey. Have mine. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/27 "2013-07-03T15:44:03Z")
> [@Otara](#): > > Do I have the ability to explain to the other person what has happened? > > Otara Ability? Sure. Motivation? Probably not. You hate them with the heat of a thousand novas now. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/28 "2013-07-03T15:49:46Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Although I voted in the poll, the scenario in the OP is completely impossible. [spoiler]No one has less scruples than Rhymer Enterprises. > > Oh. That may shoot my chances at pie. Never mind. I’d sell the truth for dessert and thus have less scruples than RE, so the above statement isn’t true.[/spoiler] > > That said, I grew up in a household with a psychotic parent who was incapable of love for any of his children, and we’re all still dealing with the emotional mess. Drop me in. Rhymer Enterprises has TONS of scruples. We don’t harm women except in self-defense; we don’t harm children for any reason; we don’t … Okay, Rhymer Enterprises has TWO scruples, with an option for 1998 more. > [@Gagundathar](#): > > First, in answer to the OP, I would choose death because I really couldn’t betray my darling soon-to-be-spouse by suddenly hating her. > Second, Skald, do you lie awake late at night thinking these scenarios? Or do they just ‘come to you’ following a fugue state? Does Mrs. Rhymer know of your imaginative excursions into ethical dilemmahood? Just random thoughts, they are. > [@Gagundathar](#): > > **Skald** , are the results consistent with your expectations so far? I didn’t have any expectations. No, scratch that, I didn’t have any expectations when I made up the scenario (which I always do in a single freewritten draft), but after I posted it I figured that the people whose greatest love was their child would rather die than be forced to hate them, and that seems to be the case. I didn’t have a clue how people whose greatest love is their SO would vote. ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/77aa72/32.png) [@Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fluffy_PickleSniffer)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/29 "2013-07-03T23:42:58Z")
Don’t wanna hate the ones I love… hopefully lava is a less painful death than it looks. Do I get to eat my slice of coconut cake before I’m killed? I need more than 60 seconds to savor it properly… ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/30 "2013-07-04T17:17:09Z")
I hate coconut. In cake or not. There are plenty of people out there for me to love. Ok maybe not plenty but hopefully more than one. Death is final and there is nothing else. And I won’t be able to watch baseball or play video games. Zap me! ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/31 "2013-07-04T19:30:32Z")
> [@Fluffy\_PickleSniffer](#): > > Don’t wanna hate the ones I love… hopefully lava is a less painful death than it looks. > Do I get to eat my slice of coconut cake before I’m killed? I need more than 60 seconds to savor it properly… According to Wikipedia (which means I don’t trust this information but am using it anyway), molten lava is tends to be at temperatures between 700 and 1200 degrees Celsius. Even being suspended in a cage above it will probably kill you in minutes; once you’re dropped into the pit, I can’t believe you’ll be alive more than half a second. That’ll be a very long half second, though. ---
**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/32 "2013-07-04T20:04:05Z")
I’ve had plenty of bad breakups and relations of intense love/hatred, I’ve already decided to keep on living anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/33 "2013-07-04T21:40:04Z")
Amor vincit omnia. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/34 "2013-07-05T18:50:27Z")
Kill me. My love for my husband has been a foundation for all of my love everywhere. If that changed, so would I, and not in a good way. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/35 "2013-07-05T19:10:23Z")
I may have mentioned that my Wife has recently been diagnosed with a rather invasive cancer. My sudden and inexplicable death would be easier for her to deal with then my sudden and inexplicable withdrawal of support. I hope to have the panache to do a swan dive into the lava. ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/36 "2013-07-05T20:26:42Z")
The O.P.s premise couldn’t work. I could NEVER hate myself . ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/37 "2013-07-05T21:31:46Z")
Not sure who I love most, but I think maybe I’d rather die. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/38 "2013-07-05T21:38:03Z")
Skald: I will cheefully accept immediate dissolution from your orbiting death rays before I will hate forever the lady I consider the love of my life. However, some of these polls you post make me wonder: What the hell are you smoking and can you sell me some of it? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/39 "2013-07-05T21:51:31Z")
I know that people can get over the death of a spouse. I don’t know how well they can get over having someone love them passionately one minute, then despise them utterly the next. I’d rather my husband didn’t have to find out. Lava. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485/40 "2013-07-05T22:07:07Z")
Hitler should have _started_ with the technomages. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/choose-between-immediate-death-and-forever-hating-the-person-you-now-love-most/662485.md?page=3)