# Chop chop!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chop-chop/392285>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [February 15, 2007, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chop-chop/392285 "2007-02-15T00:12:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jaochai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2acd7d/32.png) [@Jaochai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaochai)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chop-chop/392285/1 "2007-02-15T00:12:32Z")

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After reading a certain webcomic and seeing this phrase used to hurry someone up, I have to wonder . . .

what is the origin of the eponymous chop chop? How did this ultimate phrase of upper-class disdain come into being? And must one always clap the hands along with?

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chop-chop/392285/2 "2007-02-15T00:24:13Z")

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It’s from a form of pidgin English derived largely from Chinese, in the 19th century. Andrew Moody, in his article “Transmission Languages and Source Languages of Chinese Borrowings in English” (_American Speech_, 1996), says that “A possible source for Pidgin _chop-chop_ is Chinese _gap_, ‘urgent’.”

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chop-chop/392285/3 "2007-02-15T01:44:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Jaochai]  
And must one always clap the hands along with?  
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I’ve never seen anybody clap hands when saying chop-chop. The proper thing to do is to make two rapid karate type chops with one hand while saying chop-chop. 😉

I seem to recall first seeing this sterotype on the TV show [Bonanza](http://bonanzaworld.net/quickfacts.php?s=#hopsing) . The Chinese cook, Hop Sing always seemed to be carrying around a cooking utensil (sometimes a meat clever) and would be told to “hurry up, chop-chop”.

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**Author:** ![stuyguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@stuyguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stuyguy)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chop-chop/392285/4 "2007-02-15T04:12:27Z")

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Some years ago I posted a question on the SDMB about the phrase, “chop-chop.” I always assumed it had a racist (anti-Chinese) stigma, but other people I’ve met said no, it doesn’t. I don’t recall exactly how the answer played out, but that old thread might prove informative. I’d dig it out for you, but I’m too busy righ now.

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chop-chop/392285/5 "2007-02-15T04:14:50Z")

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[QUOTE=stuyguy]  
Some years ago I posted a question on the SDMB about the phrase, “chop-chop.” I always assumed it had a racist (anti-Chinese) stigma, but other people I’ve met said no, it doesn’t. I don’t recall exactly how the answer played out, but that old thread might prove informative. I’d dig it out for you, but I’m too busy right now.  
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Too busy? 😕  
Get on with it, man!

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Chop chop! 😃

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chop-chop/392285/6 "2007-02-15T11:20:53Z")

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_Cassell’s Dictionary of Slang_ says it’s 19th-century Chinese pidgin and derives from the Chinese _k’wâi k’wâi_.

_Collins English Dictionary_ says much the same thing except that it states the original was the Cantonese _kap kap_.

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**Author:** ![FRDE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e68b1a/32.png) [@FRDE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FRDE)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chop-chop/392285/7 "2007-02-15T12:10:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Colophon]  
_Cassell’s Dictionary of Slang_ says it’s 19th-century Chinese pidgin and derives from the Chinese _k’wâi k’wâi_.

_Collins English Dictionary_ says much the same thing except that it states the original was the Cantonese _kap kap_.  
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_k’wâi k’wâi_ looks to me like ‘Devil Devil’ but probably those accents make it sound entirely different.

I once did a little survey, in Singapore, on the various Chinese pronunciations of Ang Mao Kwai (red headed devil (?) ) and they were all radically different.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chop-chop/392285/8 "2007-02-15T14:47:08Z")

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in modern pinyin, it’s ‘kuai kuai’ or fast fast. chop chop should be a bastardized English crude approximation of the Cantonese.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chop-chop/392285/9 "2007-02-15T15:30:43Z")

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Is the “chop” from the same source as in “chop suey” perhaps? I think I remember that “chop suey” is an American English term for some Chinese food leftovers made into a sort of stew and served to non-Chinese customers in Chinese restaurants on the West Coast.

I do recall that in the Chinese restaurants in Birmingham back in the 50’s that Chop Suey was on their menus. No big surprise, since they also provided fortune cookies, another non-Chinese item.

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**Author:** ![minlokwat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minlokwat/32/2844_2.png) [@minlokwat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minlokwat)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chop-chop/392285/10 "2007-02-15T15:52:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Jaochai]  
what is the origin of the eponymous chop chop?  
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Picking nits and jacking hi (there’s one in every thread)

Who’s “Chop”?

eponymous = word derived from a specific person’s name; examples: sandwich, bowdlerize, boycott.

Chop chop as eponym? No, no.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chop-chop/392285/11 "2007-02-15T16:10:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Jaochai]  
What is the origin of the eponymous chop chop? How did this ultimate phrase of upper-class disdain come into being? And must one always clap the hands along with?  
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Re the second question: I never understood “chop chop” to have anything to do with “upper class disdain;” it just means “hurry up.” At least it did in our family: “Get in the car! Chop chop!” And no hand clapping either.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chop-chop/392285/12 "2007-02-15T16:26:05Z")

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I understood “eponymous” to refer to the title of the thread: “Chop chop!”

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**Author:** ![Carnac\_the\_Magnificent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Carnac\_the\_Magnificent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnac_the_Magnificent)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chop-chop/392285/13 "2007-02-15T17:57:27Z")

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Years ago in Hong Kong, I saw an elderly Brit, resplendent in white suit, give this instruction to the man who was pulling his … rickshaw. It was straight from an old Nancy Kwan film.

A hell of a site.
