# Chris Matthew's lastest rant **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 23, 2012, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618 "2012-10-23T14:39:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/21 "2012-10-23T15:25:46Z")
> [@stevenova](#): > > Why not just criminalize not swooning over or orgasming over Obama like liberals like Matthews do? Because that would be wrong. You seem to have a lot of very easy to answer questions. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/22 "2012-10-23T15:28:17Z")
Steve, the police called. Your Freshman Composition 101 teacher is on a ledge, threatening to jump. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/23 "2012-10-23T15:28:26Z")
> [@stevenova](#): > > How much of the black vote did hillary get in the primaries? She was actually [leading](http://www.salon.com/2008/05/05/clinton_blackvote/)in the polls for African-Americans early in the campaign. Obama won those voters over. And Hillary alienated them. ---
**Author:** ![Oliveritaly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oliveritaly/32/15233_2.png) [@Oliveritaly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oliveritaly)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/24 "2012-10-23T15:29:05Z")
> [@AtomicDog](#): > > I voted for her. I didn’t think that Obama had a chance, and I didn’t want to throw my vote away. > > I was wrong. I’m in the same camp as AtomicDog, I voted for her as well and as it turns out, I also was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/25 "2012-10-23T15:31:00Z")
Nice to see the race card get thrown out there. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/26 "2012-10-23T15:31:44Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Nice to see the race card get thrown out there. Sometimes it’s the right card. ---
**Author:** ![stevenova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@stevenova](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stevenova)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/27 "2012-10-23T15:35:34Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Steve, the police called. Your Freshman Composition 101 teacher is on a ledge, threatening to jump. I thought personal attacks violate the rules here. Do you have a counter argument or just insults? ---
**Author:** ![stevenova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@stevenova](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stevenova)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/28 "2012-10-23T15:39:01Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > She was actually [leading](http://www.salon.com/2008/05/05/clinton_blackvote/)in the polls for African-Americans early in the campaign. Obama won those voters over. And Hillary alienated them. Polls are different than votes. What percentage of the black VOTES did hillary actually get in the primaries? I’m not asking about polls, but how people actually voted. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/29 "2012-10-23T15:41:14Z")
> [@stevenova](#): > > Polls are different than votes. What percentage of the black VOTES did hillary actually get in the primaries? I’m not asking about polls, but how people actually voted. As the link explains, people \*actually voted \*against her for legitimate reasons. What’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/30 "2012-10-23T15:41:37Z")
> [@stevenova](#): > > Polls are different than votes. What percentage of the black VOTES did hillary actually get in the primaries? I’m not asking about polls, but how people actually voted. Election results don’t include the race of the voters. The only way to estimate demographic breakdowns of voting is by polling- because then the pollster can ask the voter what race they are. So the only way to answer your question is to look at polls. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/31 "2012-10-23T15:42:42Z")
> [@stevenova](#): > > I thought personal attacks violate the rules here. Do you have a counter argument or just insults? It’s difficult to form a counter argument when the primary argument is missing. Is there something specifically wrong with the Chris Matthews rant? Can you point to an inaccuracy in it somewhere? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/32 "2012-10-23T15:45:12Z")
Steve, feel free to actually make an argument or state your opinion- something like “I think Chris Matthews is wrong becase…” ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/33 "2012-10-23T15:47:58Z")
> [@stevenova](#): > > Polls are different than votes. Right. Polls are surveys asking people who they will vote for. Massive difference. Oranges and apples. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/34 "2012-10-23T15:48:51Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Sometimes it’s the right card. If it makes you feel better at night then, by all means, think that. (I shudder to think what it would be labeled if 95% of Southern Whites votes against Obama. Maybe super racist?) ---
**Author:** ![stevenova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@stevenova](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stevenova)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/35 "2012-10-23T15:48:57Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Steve, feel free to actually make an argument or state your opinion- something like “I think Chris Matthews is wrong becase…” So race baiting is cool with you? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/36 "2012-10-23T15:50:05Z")
> [@stevenova](#): > > I thought personal attacks violate the rules here. Do you have a counter argument or just insults? elucidator, why are you attacking stevenova’s freshman comp instructor personally? ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/37 "2012-10-23T15:50:12Z")
> [@stevenova](#): > > How much of the b lack vote did hillary get in the primaries? In the New York State primary, Hilary won the black vote. She also had the endorsement of most of the established black politicians. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/38 "2012-10-23T15:50:24Z")
> [@stevenova](#): > > So race baiting is cool with you? So repeatedly answering posts with questions and not actually stating your own opinion or argument is cool with you? ---
**Author:** ![stevenova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@stevenova](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stevenova)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/39 "2012-10-23T15:50:28Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > If it makes you feel better at night then, by all means, think that. > > (I shudder to think what it would be labeled if 95% of Southern Whites votes against Obama. Maybe super racist?) Didn’t you know it’s a thought crime to point out liberal double standards? ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/40 "2012-10-23T15:52:43Z")
> [@AtomicDog](#): > > I voted for her. I didn’t think that Obama had a chance, and I didn’t want to throw my vote away. > > I was wrong. Never admit you’re wrong and never show weakness on the Internet. You have much to learn. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618.md?page=3)