# Chris Matthew's lastest rant **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 23, 2012, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618 "2012-10-23T14:39:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/41 "2012-10-23T15:52:50Z")
I am 100% certain that a sizable portion of Romney supporters are racist fucks. Whether this portion is as low as 32% or as high as 33%, I cannot say with certainty. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/42 "2012-10-23T15:55:49Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > If it makes you feel better at night then, by all means, think that. > > (I shudder to think what it would be labeled if 95% of Southern Whites votes against Obama. Maybe super racist?) What reason, other than race, would a Southern White person have to vote for Romney over Obama? Not national security, not taxes, not the deficit, not health care. Maybe abortion or gay rights, but that’s about it. On everything else, whether you’re liberal or conservative, Obama has better policies and expertise. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/43 "2012-10-23T15:56:55Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Nice to see the race card get thrown out there. Hey, I was a black Republican back in the day. Back when I was younger and more naive. Back when the party didn’t totally suck the way it does now. Talk to your people (Republicans, that is). Get them to stop acting all crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/44 "2012-10-23T15:57:53Z")
> [@stevenova](#): > > Didn’t you know it’s a thought crime to point out liberal double standards? Are you Just Asking Questions? Do you have an opinion on this? Are there any racists in the southern states who will vote against Obama? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/45 "2012-10-23T15:58:27Z")
> [@stevenova](#): > > Didn’t you know it’s a thought crime to point out liberal double standards? You are incorrect again. Political commentators are allowed on the air, and all partisans appear to maintain double standards, and then they cherry pick details out of their own and their opponents arguments to make a thin distinction to claim otherwise. Apparently you have no exposure to political discourse and the Matthews quote in the OP is your first experience. That explains the confused and rambling nature of your questions. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/46 "2012-10-23T15:59:40Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > elucidator, why are you attacking stevenova’s freshman comp instructor personally? Probably because she passed him. ---
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/47 "2012-10-23T16:04:32Z")
> [@stevenova](#): > > Polls are different than votes. What percentage of the black VOTES did hillary actually get in the primaries? I’m not asking about polls, but how people actually voted. Broken fingers? Can’t Google to support your own point? ---
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/48 "2012-10-23T16:07:25Z")
The alternative to some people hating Obama with the intensity of a burning sun is that the haters are all batshit insane. Is that better? ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/49 "2012-10-23T16:16:50Z")
That was nothing compared to Chris Matthew’s rant about the CA smoking ban for non-detached homes. Now that was a rant! ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/50 "2012-10-23T16:25:47Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Steve, the police called. Your Freshman Composition 101 teacher is on a ledge, threatening to jump. So stealing this. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/51 "2012-10-23T16:29:43Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > What reason, other than race, would a Southern White person have to vote for Romney over Obama? Not national security, not taxes, not the deficit, not health care. Maybe abortion or gay rights, but that’s about it. On everything else, whether you’re liberal or conservative, Obama has better policies and expertise. The economy, stupid. (And, no, that’s not a personal attack.) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/52 "2012-10-23T16:37:11Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > The economy, stupid. > > (And, no, that’s not a personal attack.) No offense taken. If you care about the economy (and who doesn’t?) there is no logical reason to vote for Romney over Obama. Romney’s “five point plan” is all fluff and mirrors. His tax plan will kill the recovery and blow up the deficit. His increased military spending is pandering to the military industrial complex and reckless. My point stands: If you are a conservative or a liberal, Obama is your man. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/53 "2012-10-23T16:43:51Z")
> [@stevenova](#): > > “I think they hate Obama. They want him out of the White House more than they want to destroy Al Qaeda. Their No. 1 enemy in the world right now, on the right, is their hatred, hatred for Obama. And we can go into that about the white working class in the South and looking at these numbers we’re getting the last couple days about racial hatred in many cases … this isn’t about being a better president, they want to get rid of this president.” And the parts that are inaccurate are…? Please, enlighten us. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/54 "2012-10-23T16:54:36Z")
Seriously, why is anyone still engaging this guy. His proclivities should be obvious by now. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/55 "2012-10-23T17:02:04Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Seriously, why is anyone still engaging this guy. His proclivities should be obvious by now. They’re not even proclivities - more like amateurclivities. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/56 "2012-10-23T17:09:38Z")
And to that note, **stevenova** has been banned. I’ll leave the thread open for now in case there’s anything worth discussing here. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/57 "2012-10-23T17:13:43Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Nice to see the race card get thrown out there. You’ve been playing the race card since you made your user name. Ironic, no? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/58 "2012-10-23T17:17:28Z")
So when Newt says something along the lines of, > [@Mid-range Poonovore](#): > > “I’m assuming there’s some rhythm to Barack Obama that the rest of us don’t understand, whether he needs large amounts of rest, whether he needs to go play basketball for a while. I don’t, you know, watch ESPN. I mean, I don’t quite know what his rhythms are." That’s not a dog whistle? When people don’t accept the president’s birth certificate, and demand an additional government-only version of the form that no president has been required to provide that isn’t a little racist? When Romney talks about “taking the work requirement out of welfare” even though that’s not remotely what Obama did, he’s not trying to suggest, “Letting lazy black people get free money”? There is racism in the world. And the Republican base has a lot of it. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/59 "2012-10-23T17:27:03Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > (I shudder to think what it would be labeled if 95% of Southern Whites votes against Obama. Maybe super racist?) In Alabama in 2008, only 10% of whites voted for Obama. In Mississippi it was 11%. It will almost certainly be lower this year. You may label it whatever you like. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618/60 "2012-10-23T17:40:22Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > She was actually [leading](http://www.salon.com/2008/05/05/clinton_blackvote/)in the polls for African-Americans early in the campaign. Obama won those voters over. And Hillary alienated them. I think [Bill alienated them more than Hillary](http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/01/bubba-obama-is/), to be honest. > [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > The economy, stupid. > > (And, no, that’s not a personal attack.) Voting Republican using the economy as your decision-driver is what’s stupid (and no, that’s not a personal attack, either). Democrats win on [fiscal responsibility](http://www.examiner.com/article/damning-evidence-from-cbpp-lays-responsibility-for-budget-deficit-on-republicans), [job growth](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-08/private-jobs-increase-more-with-democrats-in-white-house.html), [federal government spending](http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/why-obama-is-no-big-spender-20120531) (especially President Obama), and [economic prosperity](http://washingtonexaminer.com/80-year-study-democrats-better-at-economics/article/2505194). So yes, it’s the economy, stupid, but not for the party you support. And Chris Matthews is a turd. Stop listening to his blather no matter which side you’re on. Your blood pressure will thank you either way, trust me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chris-matthews-lastest-rant/638618.md?page=4)