# Christane Amanpour, White House intimidation and a total BITCH from Fox News. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 16, 2003, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882 "2003-09-16T03:05:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/21 "2003-09-16T05:42:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SnoopyFan \* > \*\ ***By setting a tone where any dissent is synomous with supporting the enemy.** > > If Fox is such a weakling compared to the Great and Almighty CNN, why does CNN care so much what Fox thinks? > > Why is CNN letting Fox “set the tone” ??? \*\* What’s great and might about CNN? Fox is much bigger these days. Hate sells, truth doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/22 "2003-09-16T06:00:16Z")
Poor Diogenes. It must suck to live in a country where everyone is a brainwashed sheep except for yourself. And then you have the balls to complain about CNN being intimidated by George Bush, but when CNN was too frightened to run stories about Saddam Hussein you let them off the hook. Guess what, Saddam Hussein shut down your precious CNN and BBC, and got them to neuter themselves…all in the name of access. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/23 "2003-09-16T06:11:11Z")
The CNN/ Saddam thing is fucking red herring. Why don’t you actually address the fucking story? What about what Brignati said? Do you admit that it was sleazy? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/24 "2003-09-16T06:15:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\*It wasn’t just _their_ people it was their contacts within Iraq. There was no way they could have protected everyone that was in danger. > > . \*\* I don’t think that really flies. The news media is not in the business of protecting people. They are supposed to be in the business of reporting the truth. Granted, Fox fails miserably, but that failure doesn’t excuse CNN’s failure. And, as has been said in this thread, it wasn’t politically motivated but it WAS profit motivated. Amanpour should have been blasting her _own_ organization instead of going after the easy target Fox. BTW **DtC** , have you read Franken’s book yet? It’s really good. And it deals with these kind of issues. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/25 "2003-09-16T06:20:30Z")
Address the story? There is no story! Only some whining from some washed-up hack who probably regrets not taking that FNC contract deal, all those years ago. As for Briganti, I see it as a sardonic quip against CNN. Tre’ amusing. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/26 "2003-09-16T06:26:39Z")
for my part, while I regard CNN as too liberal/globalist, I also regard Fox as too rah-rah-America, so I go to MSNBC where it’s fair, balanced & damn more entertaining & thoughtful simultaneously ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/27 "2003-09-16T06:28:04Z")
Miracle of miracles! MSNBC’s viewer has been found! ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/28 "2003-09-16T06:40:46Z")
I just popped in to say that I want to bear Christiane Amanpour’s children. She’s so freakin’ hot. ---
**Author:** ![Linear\_Crack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Linear\_Crack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linear_Crack)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/29 "2003-09-16T06:49:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Larry Mudd \* > \*\*I just popped in to say that I want to bear Christiane Amanpour’s children. > > She’s so freakin’ hot. \*\* Oh my god. She’s like an english Janet Reno. You’re gross. Although, you did get the _bear_ part right. 😛 -LC ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/30 "2003-09-16T07:40:05Z")
Diogenes, it wasn’t just about ‘protecting people’. You might want to read [this.](http://www.editorandpublisher.com/editorandpublisher/headlines/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1979014) These organizations kiss the ass of dictators and suppress news of their atrocities in order to keep their bureaus open and get ‘access’. In so doing, they become part of the dictatorship’s propaganda machine. ---
**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/31 "2003-09-16T12:02:08Z")
After President Bush’s press conference in March about the reasons for the Iraq war, I started my Pit thread [White House Press Corps - A Pack of Yipping Lap Dogs](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=167944). In that thread, **Jonathan Chance** , who formerly worked as a junior member of the White House press corps, explained some of the reasons that the reporters served Bush nothing but softballs. I found his answers fascinating and highly disturbing. In short, there was strong implied White House intimidiation of the press, who would lose important access if they challenged the administration. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/32 "2003-09-16T12:08:02Z")
Yeah, but they would only lose access to the info the White House _wanted_ them to print. So, to get the access, they became a tool. Not a great trade-off. Or a great example of journalistic integrity in either instance. ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/33 "2003-09-16T12:40:19Z")
CNN is a respected news outlet, dammit! They may have covered up Saddam’s brutal methods for years in order to maintain access to the corrupt regime, but at least they know kissing Bush’s ass is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/34 "2003-09-16T13:05:23Z")
No, no. They covered for Saadam **AND** kissed Bush’s ass. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/35 "2003-09-16T13:09:02Z")
Just to address **Diogenes’** point, I see Briganti’s statement in the light of two television reporters having a cat fight. Why this should generate news attention is beyond me. However if **Diogenes** insists on generating moral outrage, he should direct it at the instigator of this little tiff. To call any self-respecting news organization foot soldiers for the US administration is an insult. Briganti’s solicited response clearly is not seriously to be believed, but rather her way of characterizing the foolishness of the initial charges against Fox. ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/36 "2003-09-16T13:11:24Z")
My bad. Am I the only one about sick of these generic threads? News story: criticism of Bush. **DtC, Reeder, etc.** SEE! FUCK! FUCKERS! FUCKING FUCKERS! DAMN NAZI STALINIST FUCKERS! ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/37 "2003-09-16T13:13:37Z")
No, **Beagle**. You are not the only one. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/38 "2003-09-16T13:21:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\*The CNN/ Saddam thing is fucking red herring. Why don’t you actually address the fucking story? What about what Brignati said? Do you admit that it was sleazy? \*\* I see this as just a petty, stupid exchange of insults. Amanpour should have had more sense than to blame poor performance on the part of CNN on Fox News. And where are the examples of CNN self-censorship? Can we have just one?\* \*aside from previous CNN failures to report atrocities under Saddam. ---
**Author:** ![SnoopyFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@SnoopyFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnoopyFan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/39 "2003-09-16T14:25:51Z")
**For quite a while (though it seems the tide has turned) CNN had little choice because Fox was spanking them in the prime time ratings.** _Picturing the CEO of CNN bent over Neal Cavuto’s leg_ WHO’S YO DADDY!!! SAY MY NAME BITCH!!! ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882/40 "2003-09-16T14:40:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\*By setting a tone where any dissent is synomous with supporting the enemy. \*\* Sorry, but this is absolutely laughable. CNN is a big boy now and is quite capable of setting its own news policies. They were, and still are, perfectly free to choose between 1) objective, truthful reporting, 2) whatever supports their preconcieved political agenda, or 3) whatever brings in the bucks. Whatever they choose, they are the ones who make the decision, not FOX, not MSNBC, not Matt Drudge, not even the Illuminated Seers of Bavaria. Claiming that their poor reporting decisions are the fault of FOXNews is not only childish and myopic, it’s downright dishonest. Any constraints on their reporting came not from being unable to speak forthrightly, but unwilling. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christane-amanpour-white-house-intimidation-and-a-total-bitch-from-fox-news/201882.md?page=3)