# Christian Black African Teenage Girls: who buys them? where? for how much? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [May 9, 2014, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024 "2014-05-09T03:47:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![md2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@md2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md2000)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/21 "2014-05-09T12:30:48Z")
Of course, if you expand your definition far enough there are plenty of slaves. (Google “wage slave” or “I owe my soul to the company store”) Prostitution is a special case. Beyond that, people basically “owned” and made to work for only subsistence, having no rights… Either such activities are heavily underground or more often, that happens in the backwaters of nations where human rights and laws in general are not properly applied. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/22 "2014-05-09T17:59:04Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > Abducted white European girls were enslaved by whoever. Why do you think prostitution and sexual enslavement are called "“white slavery?” Why do I think? Because in english the question of colour prejudice ran very deep and the colour difference of the slaves became important in your sexualised fears and racisms tied to this. It was not because it was an important factor in actual events. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/23 "2014-05-09T18:11:33Z")
why can’t some US front buy them all, get them the Hell out of there, and let the carpet bombing begin? ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/24 "2014-05-09T18:11:48Z")
The only thing that matters is that they are teenage girls. The owners who buy people won’t give a damn what the girls believe ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/25 "2014-05-09T18:29:17Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > Boko in Nigerian Hausa refers to the latin characters and the latin writing system for the Hausa language. It comes from the English for book. This contrasts to the writing in Arabic script of the Hausa language which was before the English the traditional writing, in 3jam. “Boko” does refer to the roman alphabet and to westernized education in general, but apparently it does not actually derive from the English word “book”: that’s a folk etymology. As [this article](http://www.megatchad.net/publications/Newman-2013-Etymology-of-Hausa-boko.pdf) explains, > [@](#): > > A careful analysis of Hausa phonology and morphology shows clearly that _boko_ could not have come from English “book”. Rather, _boko_ is an indigenous Hausa word originally connoting sham, fraud, deceit, or lack of authenticity. When the British colonial government imposed secular schools in northern Nigeria at the beginning of the 20th century, _boko_ was applied in a pejorative sense to this new system. By semantic extension, _boko_ came to acquire its current meaning of Hausa written in Roman script and Western education in general. […] > > There are various pieces of evidence that support the view that _boko_ not only never meant book, but could not have come from book. No one factor is crucial in and of itself, but they add up to the same conclusion, namely that the resemblance between _boko_ and book is purely coincidental and of no historical linguistic import. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/26 "2014-05-09T18:37:13Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > why can’t some US front buy them all, get them the Hell out of there, and let the carpet bombing begin? :dubious: Carpet bombing of whom, and where? Can you point on a map to a specific locale you think should be carpet-bombed, and can you give a reasonably coherent and accurate description of what groups of people live there and which of them have done something to deserve it, and what its likely consequences will be for other people in that locale who **haven’t** done anything to deserve it? Because I’m sure you wouldn’t have advocated any such radically aggressive measures if you hadn’t fully informed yourself about their advisability and impacts beforehand. Right? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/27 "2014-05-09T18:42:57Z")
> [@Isilder](#): > > The girls are christian and so buying them as a slave is _saving_ them ! (By their logic… ) And you come to this conclusion–“They’re being ‘saved’”–…exactly, how? What evidence do you have that conversion is the reason, or one of the reasons, for their kidnapping? Or are you imagining stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/28 "2014-05-09T18:57:57Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > why can’t some US front buy them all, get them the Hell out of there, and let the carpet bombing begin? People have tried buying and freeing slaves. They found that all it did was encourage people to capture more slaves and give them more resources to do it with. As for bombing, it sounds like an appealing solution: these are evil people, let’s kill them. But where exactly do you drop the bombs? Boko Haram operates in northern Nigeria. But guess what? The people they’re preying upon also live in northern Nigeria. How do you separate the criminals from the victims in a bombing campaign? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/29 "2014-05-09T19:01:45Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > Why do I think? Because in english the question of colour prejudice ran very deep and the colour difference of the slaves became important in your sexualised fears and racisms tied to this. > > It was not because it was an important factor in actual events. Pre-Civil War paler skinned slave girls sold in the American south usually cost more, so skin color was important, but that was more an extension of the race-based prejudice at work. I don’t hear “white slavery” much any more, these days it seems referred to as “human trafficking” or “modern day slavery” or “sex slavery” without the distinction of ethnicity. In the US, at least, women caught up in that nightmare are of all colors and origins. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/30 "2014-05-09T19:09:21Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > “Boko” does refer to the roman alphabet and to westernized education in general, but apparently it does not actually derive from the English word “book”: that’s a folk etymology. As [this article](http://www.megatchad.net/publications/Newman-2013-Etymology-of-Hausa-boko.pdf) explains, Thank you, I am not a Hausa speaker. Even many ordinary Hausa speaker has said it comes from book, but this seems to be wrong. I am sorry to repeat that. > [@Kimstu](#): > > :dubious: Carpet bombing of whom, and where? Can you point on a map to a specific locale you think should be carpet-bombed, and can you give a reasonably coherent and accurate description of what groups of people live there and which of them have done something to deserve it, and what its likely consequences will be for other people in that locale who **haven’t** done anything to deserve it? > > Because I’m sure you wouldn’t have advocated any such radically aggressive measures if you hadn’t fully informed yourself about their advisability and impacts beforehand. > > Right? This is why I want Americans to stay away. The easy solutions and massacres for easy morality plays, like an action movie, it is clearly what is the first reaction. How it can even be a joking comment to say you will carpet bomb to respond to this issue, it requires seeing the people as not human and as insects. It is not even a good joke, it shows again why such interventions can not be trusted. ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/31 "2014-05-09T19:11:29Z")
Crazy militia groups have roamed the less civilised parts of Africa for Some decennia now. Whatever the leader says their cause is, is unimportant even to the leader. What they do is rob the countryside, take the food and supplies they see and kill everyone in their way, to install fear. Young boys are captured and traumatized, coerced and forced to be child soldiers. Young girls are captured to do the chores, and als personal (sex) slaves/ “wives” to those in command or als incentive reward. There is no such thing als these girls being traded to some external or foreign slave market . Things are bad enough as they are. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/32 "2014-05-09T19:14:11Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > People have tried buying and freeing slaves. They found that all it did was encourage people to capture more slaves and give them more resources to do it with. > > As for bombing, it sounds like an appealing solution: these are evil people, let’s kill them. But where exactly do you drop the bombs? Boko Haram operates in northern Nigeria. But guess what? The people they’re preying upon also live in northern Nigeria. How do you separate the criminals from the victims in a bombing campaign? Obviously, carpet bombing would be a bad idea. And I see the risk in paying to free these young women. My thought would be pay what it takes to get them out of harm’s way and then go after the kidnappers with force. ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/33 "2014-05-09T19:18:54Z")
[PDF]Factsheet on child soldiers - Unicef [www.unicef.org/emerg/files/childsoldiers.pdf](http://www.unicef.org/emerg/files/childsoldiers.pdf) FACTSHEET: CHILD SOLDIERS. About 10 to 30 percent of all children forced to be soldiers are girls. Their fate is similar to the girls taken by boko haram. ---
**Author:** ![md2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@md2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md2000)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/34 "2014-05-09T19:21:54Z")
One problem seems to be that despite the sympathetic noises coming from the capital, the government and the army had not actually done anything to search for the missing girls. they just claimed they were. After a week, they did not have even a list of who was missing. My impression from the various news shows was that the area was fairly lawless, that the army does not have the resources or the will to fight an insurgency. After all, fighting the same sort of guerilla fight in Afghanistan took a huge amount of money and manpower from the US and their allies. Apparently the area is moderately dense forest and makes searching, even from the air, difficult; it also provides cover for ambushes and army convoys there have been frequent targets. They are also near the border and can hop across into Cameroon when pressed. perhaps with extra aid and world scrutiny they will actually accomplish something now. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/35 "2015-08-06T22:03:35Z")
In today’s UK Independent, a UN official confirmed the authenticity of the IS price list for captured Yazidi and Christian girls, teenagers, and older women, published last year in the English-language Iraqi News. Iraqi News: [EXCLUSIVE: ISIS document sets prices of Christian and Yazidi slaves - Iraqi News](http://www.iraqinews.com/features/exclusive-isis-document-sets-prices-christian-yazidi-slaves/) Independent: [Isis 'price list' for child slaves confirmed as genuine by UN official Zainab Bangura | The Independent | The Independent](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-price-list-for-child-slaves-confirmed-as-genuine-by-un-official-zainab-bangura-10437348.html) From the Iraqi News translation: ISIS decided to impose price controls over the sale of women and spoils, vowing to execute whoever violates those controls, which are as follows: [ul] [li]A (Yazidi or Christian) woman, aged 40 to 50 years, is for 50,000 dinars.[/li][li]The rate of a (Yazidi or Christian) woman, aged 30 to 40 years, is 75,000 dinars.[/li][li]The rate for a (Yazidi or Christian) woman, aged 20 to 30 years, is 100,000 dinars.[/li][li]A (Yazidi or Christian) girl, aged 10 to 20 years, is for 150,000 dinars.[/li][li]A (Yazidi or Christian) child’s price, aged 1 to 9 years, is 200,000 dinars.[/li][/ul] According to the document, it is not authorized for any individual to purchase more than 3 spoils; except for foreigners like Turks, Syrians and Gulf Arabs. I wanted to post this immediately. Perhaps someone could do the currency exchanges, which would make the horror more tangible. The photograph in the Iraqi report is certainly shocking. ---
**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/36 "2015-08-06T22:34:49Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > why can’t some US front buy them all, get them the Hell out of there, and let the carpet bombing begin? Well - It worked really well in Vietnam, so yeah, bomb the #‘##’#;s. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/37 "2015-08-06T22:35:51Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > The Barbary Wars were about tribute payments not slavery. At the time the first Barbary War was fought the slave trade was still legal in the United States so it wouldn’t have made much sense to send Marines off to suppress it. Kind of, US crews were kidnapped and enslaved as punishment for the lack of tribute. So while the US had no issue with slavery per se, enslaving white ship crews was not going to be tolerated. ---
**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/38 "2015-08-06T22:40:53Z")
At today’s rates: A (Yazidi or Christian) woman, aged 40 to 50 years, is for $43. The rate of a (Yazidi or Christian) woman, aged 30 to 40 years, is $65. The rate for a (Yazidi or Christian) woman, aged 20 to 30 years, is 1$86. A (Yazidi or Christian) girl, aged 10 to 20 years, is for $130. A (Yazidi or Christian) child’s price, aged 1 to 9 years, is $173. This assumes Iraqi Dinar and US Dollars. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/39 "2015-08-07T02:43:09Z")
> [@Polar\_Iceman](#): > > For those interested in the broader aspects of contemporary slavery, I suggest that you Google: “Interpol human trafficking”. Or you could, since you want us to understand, explain it in your post. IMHO, your OP is not much more than a seagull post. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024/40 "2015-08-07T03:54:51Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > why can’t some US front buy them all, get them the Hell out of there, and let the carpet bombing begin? Some people already tried that in Sudan. It only made the problem worse. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-black-african-teenage-girls-who-buys-them-where-for-how-much/688024.md?page=3)