# Christian Militias.  Just what we need...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 29, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239 "2010-03-29T19:05:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/81 "2010-03-30T15:05:14Z")

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I hope they enjoy their stay in a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/82 "2010-03-30T15:10:10Z")

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I hope this helps Americans understand that when a religious nutjob grabs a gun it isn’t an indictment of the religion itself. Or maybe not, "These guys aren’t Christians! Islam is the religion of war!

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/83 "2010-03-30T15:10:57Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> As if we didn’t have enough problems with al Qaeda, now we get the “Hutaree”, which sound like something out of a weird Star Trek episode. Yeah, let’s kill police and make way for the Second Coming (or whatever).

> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I think she skipped a few steps in the process…

In other words:

1. Kill police

2. ???

3. PROPHET!!!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/84 "2010-03-30T15:25:09Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> In other words:
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> 1. Kill police
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> 2. ???
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> 3. PROPHET!!!

I don’t know about you, but I’m just waiting for someone to kill a bunch of policemen so I can rise up against the evil Jew-government. There are a lot of us out there… waiting… silently… waiting.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/85 "2010-03-30T15:41:16Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> The incidents involving The CSA & The Order happened during the Reagan Administration, and Ruby Ridge of course under Dad Bush.
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> Which does show that conservative Republican administrations WILL go after wacky Righties.

“conservative Republican administrations WILL go after wacky Righties” and that’s a GOOD thing. However, even back then, I remember talking to some people who were sure it (the crackdowns) was an evil gubmint spiracy to crush ummm freedom or the right to own deathstars or ummmm something. But hell yeah it was a evil gubmint spiracy.

You get the idea. There are the crazies, and the other craizes who believe in and suport them.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/86 "2010-03-30T15:42:54Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I don’t know about you, but I’m just waiting for someone to kill a bunch of policemen so I can rise up against the evil Jew-government. There are a lot of us out there… waiting… silently… waiting.

Heh heh. I think being overrun by zombies or pirate ninjas is more likely.

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**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/87 "2010-03-30T15:58:41Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> I hope this helps Americans understand that when a religious nutjob grabs a gun it isn’t an indictment of the religion itself. Or maybe not, "These guys aren’t Christians! Islam is the religion of war!

Just check the comments on the foxnews site. Quite a few are exactly like that.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/88 "2010-03-30T16:17:24Z")

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Why should they doubt that people are out there waiting? We already had Richard Poplawski here in Pittsburgh. Apparently he just didn’t get the memo about the start date. (Now, he appeared not to share the religious element of this all, but like the Republican party alliance between Christian conservatives and neo-cons, I’m sure these right-wing nutjobs would be quite content to join forces to achieve a common objective.)

The idea that all of this inflammatory rhetoric is just nonsense to be dismissed doesn’t really fly with us here in Pittsburgh.

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**Author:** ![Digital\_Stimulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Digital\_Stimulus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_Stimulus)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/89 "2010-03-30T17:28:20Z")

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> [@coffeecat](#):
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> If Jefferson was right that we need a revolution every twenty years, why are those who try it such flaming loons?

Because a similar idea of providing the spark for revolution was the basis for [Helter Skelter](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helter_Skelter_(Manson_scenario))?

Doesn’t get much more loony…

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/90 "2010-03-30T17:35:06Z")

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I guess I have a lot longer plan in mind.

I’m waiting for the right wing religious nuts to rise up and overthrow the country.

So then _I_ can rise up and overthrow them!

Muahaha!

A plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a fox!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/91 "2010-03-30T17:38:05Z")

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Isn’t it obvious? First, the Obamessiah provokes patriots with ramming, cramming, stuffing socialism down America’s throat. When the patriots respond with reasonable and carefully considered acts of targeted “violence”, they move in and crush them. And then they say “Well, we can’t have this sort of thing going on, we’ll have to take all the guns!”

Wake up, America! Wake up!

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/92 "2010-03-30T17:46:07Z")

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You do realise you’ll likely be sourced by Fox for that comment?

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/93 "2010-03-30T17:59:34Z")

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For the last two days I’ve had Moxy Furvous playing in my head:

\*I like to keep it in the refrigerator  
Keeps the powder dry and the action quicker.

Happy birthday, Trisha  
I’m in the Michigan Militia!  
\*

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/94 "2010-03-30T18:31:27Z")

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I’m eager to hear the term “enemy combatant” hastily clarified. I wonder if a brown paper bag will be included in the new definition.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/95 "2010-03-30T18:51:14Z")

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> [@BrightNShiny](#):
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> They’re going to be prosecuted? To the fullest extent? In a legal proceeding? Where due process rules are followed? And they have habeas corpus rights? And can talk to their own attorneys? And they’re not being subjected to torture? That’s crazy!
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> When they get tortured and denied their basic rights like Padilla, you can convince me that they’re not being treated with kid gloves. But since we all know that’s not going to happen (gee, I wonder why), I think kid gloves is a fair descriptor.

I’m scared. I hope they’re off the the mainland as soon as possible. Stick them in Poland or Cuba or something. And make damned sure their trial is held there as well!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/96 "2010-03-30T19:14:49Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I guess I have a lot longer plan in mind.
> 
> I’m waiting for the right wing religious nuts to rise up and overthrow the country.
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> So then _I_ can rise up and overthrow them!
> 
> Muahaha!
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> A plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a fox!

To paraphrase Wyatt Cynac on The Daily Show last night, “I’m tired of hearing the threats. You know what? We have guns too, so lets do this.”

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/97 "2010-03-30T20:09:09Z")

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> [@Patch](#):
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> Oh, geez, [their forum is a hoot](http://www.hutaree.com/forum/).
> 
> **Evil Jew Forum**  
> Talk about being an evil Jew and how we are taking over the world in our own private forum where no one else can see. Shalomi or something.

If you’re gonna take over the world, and be uhhhhh like an evil supervillain, there are some things you need first - it’s all in the Official Super Villain Rullebook.

1. An evil cackle, or at least a hollow and deep laugh that encourages victims to feel despair
2. A secret headquarters, prefereably on an island inside a volcano
3. Evil minions and henchmen.
4. A scary supervillain costume
5. An unnecessarily complex master plan, which you can’t wait to tell the good guy all about, while lowering him into a tank full of sharks with frickin’ laser beams

Sorry, that’s the rules 😃

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/98 "2010-03-30T21:11:32Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I like to stand next to him in the photos so I can see what I would look like as a centrist.

I really don’t consider Der Trihs to be that far to the left. He’s just really big on totalitarianism, wanting to force many liberal ideas. (and I’m not sure where hatred of religion falls.)

But he’s funny in CS, and doesn’t commit terrorist acts to support his beliefs, so I think he’s pretty cool.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/99 "2010-03-30T21:49:12Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> interstellar holy war

I might go see that band.

> [@Simplicio](#):
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> The courts told the gov’t they couldn’t hold Padilla as an “double secret combatant” or whatever the term was.

Triple-dog over-the-barrel combatant, no takebacks.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-militias-just-what-we-need/534239/100 "2010-03-30T22:36:57Z")

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As you might have guessed, [the Freepers are outraged](http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/hutaree/index?tab=articles) – at the Feds and the media.

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