# Christian Nationalism, Mormonism, and a new law in Idaho **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 27, 2025, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473 "2025-07-27T12:59:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/1 "2025-07-27T12:59:15Z")
I’ve made no secret on this board of my membership in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. For many years, I was registered to vote in California. Now I’m registered to vote in Georgia. Basically my votes now are more of a protest than an actual attempt to get the candidate I support into office. I am definitely not registered to vote in Idaho. [Evidently many members of my faith who do live in that state are leopard bait now.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/inside-movement-idaho-christian-state-030513084.html) > [@](#): > > One of the most influential conservative policy groups at the Idaho Capitol wants to make the state explicitly Christian. > > But their definition excludes [a quarter](https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/facts-and-statistics/state/idaho) of the population who are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, not to mention those in the state who belong to other religions or no religion at all. > > Over the past five years, the Idaho Family Policy Center has become a legislative powerhouse, drafting, sponsoring and training lawmakers to debate a host of bills promoting Christian values in public spaces. > > This year the organization pushed to mandate daily [Bible reading](https://legislature.idaho.gov/wp-content/uploads/sessioninfo/2025/legislation/H0162.pdf) in public schools. Though the policy never received a floor vote, the organization has vowed to bring it back next year, with the proposal representing just the beginning of what the group envisions for the state. > > Idaho Family Policy Center president Blaine Conzatti told the Deseret News he would not oppose declaring Idaho a “Christian state” and implementing religious tests for public office, although he clarified these are not his short-term goals. [For your convenience, here is the full text of the First Amendment to the US constituiton.](https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-1/) > [@](#): > > _Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances._ And here is the full text of Article VI, Clause 3. > [@](#): > > _All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation._ > > _This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding._ > > _The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States._ Further in the article linked above is this nifty bit. > [@](#): > > Conzatti does not advocate for states to put their stamp of approval on one specific denomination but he does draw a line between “historic Christianity,” based on the Apostles’ and Nicene Creeds, and the faith of Latter-day Saints. Feel free to read further in the article. It’s a real eye opener. And just so’s you know, [the republican candidate carried Idaho in the last presidential election with 67% of the vote.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election_in_Idaho) I’ve also mentioned on the board before the Christian agenda types my fellow LDS are prone to elect _do not consider us to be Christians_. So, hey, if you’re going to walk right into the leopards’ face buffet, why not bring the plates and flatware yourself? ---
**Author:** ![Pitchmeister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pitchmeister/32/3459_2.png) [@Pitchmeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pitchmeister)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/2 "2025-07-27T13:16:25Z")
Please forgive me for asking, but how does this specifically affect LDS people? As long as those policies are enacted, they still get what they voted for, right? If they are not considered Christian Enough, that’s apparently not a new issue, so I don’t really see how their faces are getting eaten here. (Of course, I, too, question the sanity of people who vote for candidates that openly despise them, such as Gays for Trump.) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/3 "2025-07-27T13:19:05Z")
The policies, if they work, make it much easier to then target others not on their list…like LDS people. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/4 "2025-07-27T13:58:05Z")
> [@Pitchmeister](#): > > Please forgive me for asking, but how does this specifically affect LDS people? As long as those policies are enacted, they still get what they voted for, right? If they are not considered Christian Enough, that’s apparently not a new issue, so I don’t really see how their faces are getting eaten here. So… I’m guessing based on that statement that you’ve never been a member of an oppressed minority group? Which is fine (and if I’m wrong apologies) but let me see if I can explain even if this is in the Pit. How could it affect them? Probably not much at first. But historically that sort of thing has been used to bar people from any public office whatsoever, bar them from voting, bar them from government contracts, bar them from employment by the state, create zoning laws preventing any new religious buildings outside the state religion from being built, barring the use of existing buildings by religions outside the state sect for worship, allow the creation of conditions on the sale of property leading to restricting where religious minorities can live, barring them from institutions of higher education, and so on and so forth. Again, historically, converts from minority religions to the state religion are frequently viewed with suspicion of not actually converting, hence the origin of the term “lip service” and may still be subjected to prejudice and discrimination. Although the LDS Church considers themselves to be Christian many Protestant groups do not. I will leave it to @Monty to talk about the historical oppression of Mormons in the US (there’s a reason the majority of them all hiked out to Utah) but suffice to say they have experienced some nasty discrimination, even brutality. The fact they themselves weren’t always nice, either, and did their share of oppressing others in the past doesn’t excuse abusing them in the present or future. I’m neither Christian nor Mormon and frankly from the outside both of them do weird stuff but I don’t have a problem with any of them exercising their religion as a general principal. Anyone voting to have their state declared “Christian”, even if they themselves are some stripe of Christian, is a fucking moron because who is in the proper sect usually gets more and more narrowly defined over time. Unless you go to the exact same church as the fanatics proposing this shit you will, eventually, be on The List of Undesirables. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/5 "2025-07-27T15:29:25Z")
This reminds me of an old joke about religion: > **[The best God joke ever - and it's mine!](https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2005/sep/29/comedy.religion)** > > Emo Philips: This morning I received thrilling news: a joke I wrote more than 20 years ago has been voted the funniest religious joke of all time! > **Summary** > > > [@Emo Philips](#): > > > > Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, “Don’t do it!” He said, “Nobody loves me.” I said, “God loves you. Do you believe in God?” > > > > He said, “Yes.” I said, “Are you a Christian or a Jew?” He said, “A Christian.” I said, “Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?” He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me, too! What franchise?” He said, “Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?” He said, “Northern Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?” > > > > He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist.” I said, “Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?” He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.” I said, “Me, too!” > > > > Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.” I said, “Die, heretic!” And I pushed him over. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/6 "2025-07-27T15:44:35Z")
It does so amuse me that there are Protestant Christians, Catholic Christians, and Orthodox Christians that all want Christian Nationalists to take over the country . . . while denying that the other groups are True™ Christians. The bloodbath they want as part of their take over is going to seem quaint compared to the blood bath after they take over. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/7 "2025-07-27T15:59:06Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Anyone voting to have their state declared “Christian”, even if they themselves are some stripe of Christian, is a fucking moron because who is in the proper sect usually gets more and more narrowly defined over time. Yup. A designation like this is by its very nature exclusionary. * * * It does seem odd and, well, _insulting_ to say that a group that calls itself “The Church of **Jesus Christ** of Latter Day Saints,” isn’t Christian? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/8 "2025-07-27T16:01:50Z")
> [@robby](#): > > This reminds me of an old joke about religion: I can’t read that without hearing it in Emo’s voice: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ANNX_XiuA78/hqdefault.jpg "Emo Philips - Joke on Religion") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANNX_XiuA78) ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/9 "2025-07-27T16:13:03Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > It does seem odd and, well, _insulting_ to say that a group that calls itself “The Church of **Jesus Christ** of Latter Day Saints,” isn’t Christian? 🤔 I don’t want to delve into the details of the LDS church, particularly the details of those rituals outsiders (and even Mormons without Temple access) aren’t supposed to know about but suffice to say that the accusation is not entirely unfounded. From my perspective it’s a blend of Christianity and Masonry with some original additions added on but I’m totally OK with calling them Christians as they do believe in Jesus. Then again, I have a very broad and open umbrella when it comes to these things. Other people feel calling Mormons Christian is like calling Christians Jews - sure, there are roots there but they’ve become something else. And then there’s the crowd that likes to scream HERETIC! and use it to condone violence. That last group is the one you really have to watch out for, they’re the sort that in the end gives us things like the Spanish Inquisition, who went after anyone who wasn’t the _proper_ sort of Roman Catholic. The [Christian Nationalist movement in the US](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_nationalism_in_the_United_States) are not anyone’s friends. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/10 "2025-07-27T16:38:58Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > It does seem odd and, well, _insulting_ to say that a group that calls itself “The Church of **Jesus Christ** of Latter Day Saints,” isn’t Christian? 🤔 A lot of members of fundamentalist and evangelical Christian sects believe that many other large Christian sects aren’t Christian, either. Historically, they particularly singled out the Roman Catholic Church, referring to them as “papists,” and holding that Catholics don’t follow God, but the Pope. FWIW, when I was in college, I knew a guy who was a member of the fundamentalist [Church of Christ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churches_of_Christ) (not to be confused with the liberal United Church of Christ), who told me that they believed that any denomination which did not specifically conduct their baptisms via full-body immersion were not Christian, and anyone who had not been baptized in this manner was not a Christian, either. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/11 "2025-07-27T16:56:54Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > It does seem odd and, well, _insulting_ to say that a group that calls itself “The Church of **Jesus Christ** of Latter Day Saints,” isn’t Christian? > [@Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3990): > > Historically, they particularly singled out the Roman Catholic Church, referring to them as “papists,” and holding that Catholics don’t follow God, but the Pope. Many years ago I was kinda bored and randomly flipping through TV channels, when I landed on [The 700 Club](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_700_Club) with Pat Robertson. I had paused because he was speaking with a big graphic of South America on screen. Turns out he was talking about evangelism in Brazil and the great strides they were making in converting Brazil to “Christianity.” Then he brought up a pie graph that laid out the percentages of Christians vs other religions in Brazil, with by far the largest chunk of said others being Catholics 😉. I remember goggling at that for a second and then just quietly shaking my head, followed by changing the channel. The hardline evangelical Protestant Christian right in the United States will happily make common cause with the likes of conservative Catholics (or Israeli Jews) when it suits their purposes. But ecumenical they are not. Lie in bed with them long enough and eventually they will attempt to eat your face. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/12 "2025-07-27T17:14:09Z")
> [@Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3990): > > > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > > It does seem odd and, well, _insulting_ to say that a group that calls itself “The Church of **Jesus Christ** of Latter Day Saints,” isn’t Christian? 🤔 > > A lot of members of fundamentalist and evangelical Christian sects believe that many other large Christian sects aren’t Christian, either. Historically, they particularly singled out the Roman Catholic Church, referring to them as “papists,” and holding that Catholics don’t follow God, but the Pope. That’s true, but honestly, traditional Christians have a lot more reason to think that Mormons aren’t Christians than evangelical Christians have of rejecting Catholicism as a form of Christianity. Sure, Mormons use the same names for their gods as traditional Christians do, but their theology is at least as different from traditional Christian theology as Christianity is from Judaism. I suspect the reason that Mormons are invested in calling themselves Christians, rather than than just going with, “we are the one true church, and those Christians lost their way”, is that the religion was founded in a time and place where Christianity was normative and “Christian” was a synonym for “morally good”. Whereas when the Christians split off from the Jews, the Jews were in some trouble in the Roman empire, and it was often advantageous to use a different name and deny bring the same faith. Today we have some [Messianic Jews](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Judaism) who are Christians who want to identify as a type of Jew. I see them as similar to the Mormons identifying as traditional Christians. I mean, what’s in a name? The Mormons worship a deity called “Jesus Christ”. But in a lot of ways, including that their Jesus is explicitly not God the Creator and Father of Jesus, their Jesus is pretty different from the Jesus most Christians worship. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/13 "2025-07-27T17:34:42Z")
In my _Weltanschauung_, we’re all climbing the same mountain. You know why I say that? Because **there is only one mountain.** * * * The other day I clicked into a YouTube short (yeah, I know… 🙄) and it was some super fundamentalist Christian type (‘cause they are a _type_) showing a video of Joel Olsteen being interviewed by someone else. Olsteen was saying that he believes in Jesus as his Savior and has chosen to follow Jesus’ path and His teaching, BUT Joel (went on to say) that he has spent time in India and has known many followers of the Hindu religion and that they _(and here’s where the other guy’s head exploded)_ **“ALSO LOVE GOD.”** The guy accused Joel of repudiating Jesus and his teachings by making this statement, namely, that non-Christians can also love God. He didn’t continue the video of the interview with any more of Joel’s comments, so I don’t know if Joel went on to say that after death, Hindus are doomed to purgatory or limbo or some form of Outer Darkness. I don’t know what Joel preaches–never watched him. But it shows you how narrow the thinking of some fundamentalist Christians can be. No one except Christians are allowed to say they love God. ---
**Author:** ![ricepad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@ricepad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricepad)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/14 "2025-07-27T18:11:14Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > their Jesus is pretty different from the Jesus most Christians worship. I have a (very non-observant) Jewish friend who is fond of saying that Jews worship God, whereas Christians worship a Jew. ETA: …and Catholics worship his mother. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/15 "2025-07-27T19:12:14Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > FWIW, when I was in college, I knew a guy who was a member of the fundamentalist [Church of Christ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churches_of_Christ) (not to be confused with the liberal United Church of Christ), who told me that they believed that any denomination which did not specifically conduct their baptisms via full-body immersion were not Christian, and anyone who had not been baptized in this manner was not a Christian, either. This is the hellfire and brimstone church I grew up in. Twice a day on Sunday and also Wednesday night services no matter what. The thing that always confused me was how every other religion, and that includes _other_ christian religions, were all going to hell. Baptist → hell. Mormon → hell. Catholic → For sure hell. Etc, etc, etc. Guess what religion I am today? None. They are all wrong. Particularly the christian nationalist bent types. Just finished reading the new Jess Walter book, _So Far Gone_, and it resonates since I live in that neck of the woods. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/16 "2025-07-27T19:24:50Z")
If God really had a narrow and specific path They wanted us to follow, you would think They would have left more obvious and unambiguous evidence of it. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/17 "2025-07-27T20:03:52Z")
IMHO: She did: “Love God {your Creator}, and love your neighbor.” Everything else is window dressing. (And the way one shows love for the Creator is by showing love/care/consideration for the Creation. Something that seems to escape many “Christians.”) ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/18 "2025-07-27T21:10:10Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > It does so amuse me that there are Protestant Christians, Catholic Christians, and Orthodox Christians that all want Christian Nationalists to take over the country . . . while denying that the other groups are True™ Christians. > The bloodbath they want as part of their take over is going to seem quaint compared to the blood bath after they take over. Which is a major reason why most separation of church and state lawsuits come from religious minorities. Quite a few of them are rational enough to realize that if the government is enforcing religion on people, it won’t be _their_ religion and so they act accordingly. The Republican base however is composed of leopard bait sublimely sure that if a dictatorship is installed, it’ll be enforcing _their_ personal religious and political beliefs, not anyone else’s. ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/19 "2025-07-27T21:14:55Z")
Wait til you hear about the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473/20 "2025-07-27T21:15:57Z")
Even folks from religions that were persecuted in the colonies before freedom of religion think that this time it will be different. Sigh. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-nationalism-mormonism-and-a-new-law-in-idaho/1021473.md?page=2)