# Christian Persecution on the SDMB

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 14, 2007, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018 "2007-12-14T18:29:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/41 "2007-12-15T01:34:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
😃

I cry out for I am persecuted by the evil atheists, They cast lots for my garments. They taunt me with ridicule. They give me vinegar when I thirst. And now I say… Father… mow 'em down, baby, mow 'em down!  
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Dude, your garments are _so_ last year. Maybe if I could get better odds from the house…

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/42 "2007-12-15T01:41:55Z")

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I suppose that it doesn’t help that none of the Christians in that thread claim to be “persecuted”?

**mswas** –that’s terrible! Terrible that the Jewish guy was harmed and terrible that those people adhered to their bigotry re Muslims. Bah-I’m with Linus: I love mankind; it’s people I can’t stand. (and it wasn’t Snoopy or Charlie Brown who said that, it was Linus…)

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**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/43 "2007-12-15T02:31:09Z")

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[QUOTE=mswas]  
It’s not just here, it’s everywhere. Every message board has its bigots. Liberal multiculturalists think they can’t be bigots, but often they are as bigotted as anyone else.  
[/QUOTE]  
\*\*Allison (Carol Cane): \*\* I’m in the midst of doing my thesis.  
\*\*Alvy Singer ([Woody Allen](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0075686/)): \*\* On what?  
\*\*Allison: \*\* Political commitment in twentieth century literature.  
\*\*Alvy Singer: \*\* You, you, you’re like New York, Jewish, left-wing, liberal, intellectual, Central Park West, Brandeis University, the socialist summer camps and the, the father with the Ben Shahn drawings, right, and the really, y’know, strike-oriented kind of, red diaper, stop me before I make a complete imbecile of myself.  
\*\*Allison: \*\* No, that was wonderful. I love being reduced to a cultural stereotype.  
\*\*Alvy Singer: \*\* Right, I’m a bigot, I know, but for the _left_.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/44 "2007-12-15T03:12:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
😃

I cry out for I am persecuted by the evil atheists, They cast lots for my garments. They taunt me with ridicule. They give me vinegar when I thirst. And now I say… Father… mow 'em down, baby, mow 'em down!  
[/QUOTE]

“I’m nailed up here, dude. Sorry, Dude. But I am fucking nailed up here! Something in the way of a miracle, maybe? Pretty soon would be good. Hello?”

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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/45 "2007-12-15T03:16:54Z")

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Meanwhile, the U.S. Congress seems to have nothing better to do than vote on resolutions saying [Christians are teh awesome!](http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.res.00847:).

Persecuted? HAHAHAHAHAHA…

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/46 "2007-12-15T03:39:48Z")

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[QUOTE=eleanorigby]

You read the thread that way? How? Why? Autolycus is not saying his Catholic faith “rules”–no one is saying that any of their faiths’ “rule”. What I see are several posters relaying stories about their own struggles with the same issue, and some saying that perhaps this isn’t the best place to mull things over. I honestly don’t see how that equates to “my team rules/your team sucks” Which is “your team”? 2 admitted agnostics (me and someone else- **Teleperien**?) stated that we have also struggled with this issue and found casual sex to be not our cup of tea. So, the “team” isn’t even Christian.

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I think you missed my point. I think the thread is wonderful, and there’s a lot of great insightful opinions from people coming from many perspectives.

It’s just that some “fighting” words managed to creep into a thread where they didn’t belong is all. And I find it sad that in a thread where most everybody is playing nice, we still see accusations about what other people might do to shit on the thread.

It was a case of “even when I’m enjoying this diverse and intelligent group of people at their best and most interesting, I cannot ignore the fact that they often throw hissy fits at each other.” It would have been nice to read a thread free of divisiveness, but when we bring it up pre-emptively then it means there is no hiding anywhere from it.

[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
Well, I know what you’re sayin’, but there is indeed a long history of anti-Christian pileons here, and so it wasn’t an off-the-wall prediction. As to whether or not it was an \*accurate \*prediction, consider that perhaps the existence of the prediction influenced some people to hold their tongues when they might otherwise have posted.

I can often stop my toddler before she hits by saying, “I know you might feel like hitting!”, and she checks herself. My prediction halts the behavior. I find many adults not unlike toddlers.  
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That’s a good point. I like to imagine, though, that the difference between adults and toddlers is the capacity to check questionable actions without being explicitly told. Perhaps that’s unrealistic, I don’t know.

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**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/47 "2007-12-15T04:27:32Z")

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I’m not persecuted.

Tris

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/48 "2007-12-15T04:42:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Triskadecamus]  
I’m not persecuted.  
[/QUOTE]  
:mad: Can’t have THAT !

\*\* Persecutes **Triskadecamus** \*\*

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/49 "2007-12-15T05:19:20Z")

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I’m sorry I cant respond really. It’s my girlfriend’s birthday today and I’ve been busy.

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**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/50 "2007-12-15T05:29:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]  
:mad: Can’t have THAT !

\*\* Persecutes **Triskadecamus** \*\*  
[/QUOTE]  
Stop, or I’ll forgive you!

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/51 "2007-12-15T05:34:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]  
:mad: Can’t have THAT !

\*\* Persecutes **Triskadecamus** \*\*  
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Well, I didn’t expect that.

Then again, nobody expects the Spanish Persecution!

And yes, I did make that joke just so that nobody else would be able to.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/52 "2007-12-15T05:36:07Z")

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Man you’re just asking for it with that one.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/53 "2007-12-15T08:23:14Z")

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_prays for **Der Trihs** just to annoy him_

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/54 "2007-12-15T09:10:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Orbifold]  
Meanwhile, the U.S. Congress seems to have nothing better to do than vote on resolutions saying [Christians are teh awesome!](http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.res.00847:).  
[/QUOTE]  
They’re going to fund Bush’s war again, but not as much as he originally demanded. If only the Democrats of the SDMB could have the foresight and courage of Congressional Democrats.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/55 "2007-12-15T11:03:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Eonwe]  
I think you missed my point. I think the thread is wonderful, and there’s a lot of great insightful opinions from people coming from many perspectives.  
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Didn’t quite get that from your OP.

> [@](#):
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> It’s just that some “fighting” words managed to creep into a thread where they didn’t belong is all. And I find it sad that in a thread where most everybody is playing nice, we still see accusations about what other people might do to shit on the thread.
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> It was a case of “even when I’m enjoying this diverse and intelligent group of people at their best and most interesting, I cannot ignore the fact that they often throw hissy fits at each other.” It would have been nice to read a thread free of divisiveness, but when we bring it up pre-emptively then it means there is no hiding anywhere from it.

I’m afraid that might be a bit naive. I am pleasantly surprised at how moderate that thread has been, but it quite easily could have become a snark fest. Sad, but true. IMO, pre-empting the “hissy fits” by acknowledging their presence was a smart move on **Auotlycus’** and other posters’ parts.

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**Author:** ![Carson\_O\_Genic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@Carson\_O\_Genic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carson_O_Genic)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/56 "2007-12-15T11:40:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
😃

I cry out for I am persecuted by the evil atheists, They cast lots for my garments. They taunt me with ridicule. They give me vinegar when I thirst. And now I say… Father… mow 'em down, baby, mow 'em down!  
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Small nitpick.Offering vinegar to the crucified was an act of kindness,not a taunt.A drink of vinegar/water/honey was a common summertime drink for farmhands in the past.The acidity “cut the dust”.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/57 "2007-12-15T14:16:39Z")

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It’s funny how you’re trying to tell me something, and all I can do is stare at your punctuation as a thousand questions hound me.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/58 "2007-12-15T23:56:37Z")

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Just so I don’t seem one-sided or anything, [here’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9275605&postcount=2) a great example of again, a person attempting to start a thread relating to religion, and the OP basically gets called an infectious disease-bearer for admitting to religious belief. Sheesh, I know this is being committed by a usual suspect, but . . . man, maybe that post is deserving of its own thread.

Can’t people just come off it?

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2007, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/59 "2007-12-16T00:05:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Eonwe]  
Just so I don’t seem one-sided or anything, [here’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9275605&postcount=2) a great example of again, a person attempting to start a thread relating to religion, and the OP basically gets called an infectious disease-bearer for admitting to religious belief. Sheesh, I know this is being committed by a usual suspect, but . . . man, maybe that post is deserving of its own thread.

Can’t people just come off it?  
[/QUOTE]

Dunno. Maybe because this bb is peopled with smart asses who are used to being the most intelligent ones in any room, and therefore tend to be opinionated and obstreperous? I don’t like that kind of thread-shitting, either. Sometimes I wonder if it’s possible to truly talk about anything in more than just groups of 2–in RL or online… ☹

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2007, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-persecution-on-the-sdmb/430018/60 "2007-12-16T00:33:39Z")

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Christians being persecuted? Where? My supply of marshmallows is getting way backed up.

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