# Christian propoganda author dies in car accident -- grieve, or celebrate? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 29, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163 "2011-04-29T14:43:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/61 "2011-04-30T16:13:24Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > No, the real tragedy was that this “member of the human species” spent his life preaching hurtful irrationality. If he was one of “God’s children,” so were the people he hurt. The only person I have compassion for was the other driver. Did anybody die because of his preaching? > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Say what? Are you really going to claim that you’ve never heard of gay bashing? Or how the Nazis [rounded up homosexuals](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle)? That seems to have been more of an excuse to kill people they disliked-Ernst Rohm was homosexual and he only died later on in a purge. At any rate, would you not rather prefer that he would have changed his mind than simply have died? What of the idea “Hate the Idea, not the person who spreads it”? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/62 "2011-04-30T16:51:45Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Did anybody die because of his preaching? Are you aware of the statistics for suicide among gay teens? He may or may not have been directly responsible for any specific person committing suicide, but he contributed to the collective atmosphere of religious/social shaming which causes gay kids to become suicidal. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/63 "2011-04-30T17:06:33Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Are you aware of the statistics for suicide among gay teens? He may or may not have been directly responsible for any specific person committing suicide, but he contributed to the collective atmosphere of religious/social shaming which causes gay kids to become suicidal. Most people critical of homosexuality don’t want homosexuals to die, so it is not directly his or anyone else’s fault. Most suicides by homosexual teens are, I think, due to more direct causes such as bullying at school. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/64 "2011-04-30T17:23:10Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Most people critical of homosexuality don’t want homosexuals to die, so it is not directly his or anyone else’s fault. Most suicides by homosexual teens are, I think, due to more direct causes such as bullying at school. This is disingenuous on both counts. First of all, being “critical of homosexuality” is like being “critical of being black.” Sexual orientation is as innate as gender or race. Being “critical” of it is being critical of who a person is, not what they do. Secondly, whether or not they consciously want homosexuals to die (and don’t be so sure that percentge is small…there are strains of Christianity which want to make homosexual sex a capital offense. You should takke a look at what’s going on in Uganda, specifically at the instigation of American missionaries), they still do _harm_ to gay kids by their moral condemnation, shaming and open hostility. Thirdly, it’s precisely that kind of filth being preached from, the pulpit which marginalizes gay kids and makes bullies feel entitled to harass them. No small amount of these suicides come as a result of rejection from parents, by the way. Parents who are brainwashed by homophobic preachers. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/65 "2011-04-30T17:54:59Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > At any rate, would you not rather prefer that he would have changed his mind than simply have died? What of the idea “Hate the Idea, not the person who spreads it”? I’ve never held to that philosophy in my life. People are their ideas to a large extent, that’s like saying “hate the hand, not the person the hand is attached to.” A person who holds evil ideas is evil. But yes, I’d prefer that he’d simply changed his mind because that would mean he’d done so _earlier_. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/66 "2011-04-30T18:02:14Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > What of the idea “Hate the Idea, not the person who spreads it”? It’s been thoroughly discredited by Christian bigots who used it to justify their treatment of homosexuals. ---
**Author:** ![Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/22d042/32.png) [@Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sandwich)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/67 "2011-04-30T18:22:48Z")
I’m glad he’s dead. Jesus has killed him to punish him for being evil. He’s rotting in the fires of hell as we speak and I for one take comfort from that. Any other interpretation is the work of Satan. Or not, I’m cool either way. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/68 "2011-04-30T18:42:36Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > Well, if you thought that Teen Challenge (already mentioned) was very effective in reducing drug and alcohol use I suppose it’s not too far a stretch to implicate Wilkerson in saving “a lot” of lives. But its true efficacy is debatable, to say the least. It’s not easy to praise him, but I can’t imagine why anyone would _celebrate_ his death. Well, I’d give him credit for that, though it still doesn’t move me to mourn his death. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/69 "2011-04-30T18:57:45Z")
Ok, I had to look and now I’m on the mildly celebratory camp that he died. [http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/8920014/content/57969558-the-us-slams-rising-anti-semitism-worldwide](http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/8920014/content/57969558-the-us-slams-rising-anti-semitism-worldwide) > [@](#): > > In 2003, Israel Today editor Aviel Schneider had the privilege of interviewing Wilkerson during a visit to the UK. That interview is reproduced below. > > israel today: As an American Christian, how did you feel about the war in Iraq? > > Wilkerson: I preached about Saddam Hussein’s fall and warned our President that everything revolves around Israel. Oil is not the main concern. Saddam planned to destroy Israel, with the help of other Arab nations. Saddam Hussein is a stubborn person, and I’m thankful that God gave our President this strong conviction to save Israel from him. > > israel today: Do you really believe that President Bush will choose to be biblically driven instead of politically correct concerning Israel? > > Wilkerson: That’s why I call on American Christians to pray for our President daily and also to pray against the anti-Semitism that still exists in the Church. God warned me when I first established Times Square Church that we must always remain faithful to Israel. And I always have. > > israel today: You are here in Europe, where many Christians have no understanding of the US-led war in Iraq. > > Wilkerson: Many Christians in Europe simply don’t understand God’s Word. **Saddam’s rockets were only aimed at Israel, not at neighboring Arab states**. Beyond that, rising anti-Semitism in the churches can be felt here, particularly in Great Britain. On Operation Desert Storm, missiles from Iraq targeted Israel, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. Later, on Operation Iraqi Freedom, 10 or so missiles where launched to Kuwait. So, it is clear to me that this author had no grief by lying in the name of the lord. And I guess God told him that the foolish invasion of Iraq was ordained by him and the [one million Iraqis dead](http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/16/iraq.iraqtimeline) and 2 million refugees and almost 5000 dead coalition members were willed by God. Who should I grieve for again? ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/70 "2011-05-01T03:05:21Z")
[ > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > This is disingenuous on both counts. First of all, being “critical of homosexuality” is like being “critical of being black.” Sexual orientation is as innate as gender or race. Being “critical” of it is being critical of who a person is, not what they do. Not necessarilly. Many Christians I’ve read argue it is homosexual _acts_ that are sinful and that two men can even live together provided their relationship is not sexual. Plus while I do agree some people are more disposed to homosexuality, many people are naturally disposed to certain things which we would consider bad, yet as we learn, we learn to stop or control that behaviour. > [@](#): > > Secondly, whether or not they consciously want homosexuals to die (and don’t be so sure that percentge is small…there are strains of Christianity which want to make homosexual sex a capital offense. You should takke a look at what’s going on in Uganda, specifically at the instigation of American missionaries), they still do _harm_ to gay kids by their moral condemnation, shaming and open hostility. I’ve actually looked up that law on Wikipedia to-day and according to it ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda\_Anti-Homosexuality\_Bill](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_Bill): > [@](#): > > The legislation strengthens the criminalisation of homosexuality in Uganda by introducing the death penalty for people who are considered serial offenders, are suspected of “aggravated homosexuality” and are HIV-positive, or who engage in sexual acts with those under 18 years of age.[13] People who are caught or suspected of homosexual activity will be forced to undergo HIV tests; Ugandans who engage in same-sex sexual relations outside Uganda will likewise fall under the jurisdiction of this law, and may be extradited and charged with a felony. Furthermore, if passed, the bill will require anyone who is aware of an offense or an offender, including individuals, companies, media organisations, or non-governmental organisations who support LGBT rights, to report the offender within 24 hours. If an individual does not do so he or she is also considered an offender and is liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding 250 “currency points” or imprisonment up to three years.[13] the death penalty will be imposed only on those who commit pedophilia or those who have HIV/AIDS and thus spread the disease by commiting sexual acts. So its not the same as “kill all the homos”. > [@](#): > > Thirdly, it’s precisely that kind of filth being preached from, the pulpit which marginalizes gay kids and makes bullies feel entitled to harass them. Bullies attack anyone who seems “different” from them. there is no widespread sentiment against Asians for instance (indeed most people see them as model citizens) yet they suffer bullying. > [@](#): > > No small amount of these suicides come as a result of rejection from parents, by the way. Parents who are brainwashed by homophobic preachers. [/QUOTE] I don’t think that’s exclusively Christian or Abhramic. After all China and other East Asian nations are more stringently anti-homosexual than the West. > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > I’ve never held to that philosophy in my life. People are their ideas to a large extent, that’s like saying “hate the hand, not the person the hand is attached to.” A person who holds evil ideas is evil. But yes, I’d prefer that he’d simply changed his mind because that would mean he’d done so _earlier_. But many current atheists were people who were outwardly religious-even fundamentalist earlier in their lives. Would you have been glad they died earlier when they held those believes rather than change those minds about? And suppose the OP’s subject had changed his mind five years later, would you have preferred that to him dying now? I find it interesting that there is less sympathy here than in the thread on the mother who killed her baby. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/71 "2011-05-01T03:11:35Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Plus while I do agree some people are more disposed to homosexuality, many people are naturally disposed to certain things which we would consider bad, yet as we learn, we learn to stop or control that behaviour. I sincerely hope that you will soon understand how offensive this statement is. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/72 "2011-05-01T03:35:43Z")
I feel for the man’s family, his friends and loved ones, but I’m basically “meh”, on his death. I generally don’t celebrate when people die, unless we’re talking dictators, and even then it’s more of a just a “spit on so-and-so’s grave” type of thing. I’ve never even HEARD of this guy, anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/73 "2011-05-01T03:48:35Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > the death penalty will be imposed only on those who commit pedophilia or those who have HIV/AIDS and thus spread the disease by commiting sexual acts. That isn’t how I read it. Specifically, the law (you can read it [here](http://wthrockmorton.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/anti-homosexuality-bill-2009.pdf)) counts the serial offense of homosexuality as a criterion for the offense of aggravated homosexuality, where the latter is punishable by death. The offense of homosexuality is defined merely as sexual activity between persons of the same sex, and serial appears to mean at least one prior offense. Thus if you are convicted of having homosexual sex twice, you may be punished with death. No pedophilia or venereal disease required. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/74 "2011-05-01T03:56:12Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > That isn’t how I read it. Specifically, the law (you can read it [here](http://wthrockmorton.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/anti-homosexuality-bill-2009.pdf)) counts the serial offense of homosexuality as a criterion for the offense of aggravated homosexuality, where the latter is punishable by death. The offense of homosexuality is defined merely as sexual activity between persons of the same sex, and serial appears to mean at least one prior offense. > > Thus if you are convicted of having homosexual sex twice, you may be punished with death. No pedophilia or venereal disease required. Hmm…I seemed to have misread it… ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/75 "2011-05-01T05:06:49Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > [ > > Not necessarilly. Many Christians I’ve read argue it is homosexual _acts_ that are sinful and that two men can even live together provided their relationship is not sexual. Plus while I do agree some people are more disposed to homosexuality, many people are naturally disposed to certain things which we would consider bad, yet as we learn, we learn to stop or control that behaviour. You really can’t compare homosexuality to, say, kleptomania or suchlike as I believe you’re doing here. It seems unreasonable to say that homosexual love, for example, is perfectly acceptable and a-ok, but homosexual acts are sinful, because one pretty much leads to the other. You’re shutting off an entire means of showing and sharing love between people. Beyond that, the entire idea of homosexual acts being sinful, or indeed any act being inherently sinful, makes no sense to me. Is it the physical action which displeases God? It seems to me that intent means, or should mean, more than the simple act itself. If I kill someone, with purpose, then certainly I have done something bad. If I kill someone accidentally, through no fault of my own, then I would argue i’ve done no wrong. If I kill someone in order that I might save 10 people, I would argue i’ve performed a good deed. Yet if I have sex with another man, it doesn’t matter that it is done out of love and respect? The mere act itself, the physical motions, are what annoys God? ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/76 "2011-05-01T16:41:13Z")
I’m happy he’s dead in the same way I’m happy when a murderer is dead ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/77 "2011-05-01T16:51:41Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > You really can’t compare homosexuality to, say, kleptomania or suchlike as I believe you’re doing here. It seems unreasonable to say that homosexual love, for example, is perfectly acceptable and a-ok, but homosexual acts are sinful, because one pretty much leads to the other. You’re shutting off an entire means of showing and sharing love between people. > > Beyond that, the entire idea of homosexual acts being sinful, or indeed any act being inherently sinful, makes no sense to me. Is it the physical action which displeases God? It seems to me that intent means, or should mean, more than the simple act itself. If I kill someone, with purpose, then certainly I have done something bad. If I kill someone accidentally, through no fault of my own, then I would argue i’ve done no wrong. If I kill someone in order that I might save 10 people, I would argue i’ve performed a good deed. Yet if I have sex with another man, it doesn’t matter that it is done out of love and respect? The mere act itself, the physical motions, are what annoys God? If the intent is to commit homosexual acts, it is the comprable to the act. But I did not mean lust but love, and love can be non-sexual. > [@YogSosoth](#): > > I’m happy he’s dead in the same way I’m happy when a murderer is dead Such as Dr. George Tiller? :rolleyes: (And no I was not glad Dr. Tiller got murdered) ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/78 "2011-05-01T16:59:11Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > [ > > Not necessarilly. Many Christians I’ve read argue it is homosexual _acts_ that are sinful and that two men can even live together provided their relationship is not sexual. What makes it “sinful?” Who does it harm and what is their justification for calling it a “sin?” > [@](#): > > Plus while I do agree some people are more disposed to homosexuality, many people are naturally disposed to certain things which we would consider bad, yet as we learn, we learn to stop or control that behaviour. What’s “bad” about homosexual sex? I’ve actually looked up that law on Wikipedia to-day and according to it ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda\_Anti-Homosexuality\_Bill](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_Bill): > [@](#): > > the death penalty will be imposed only on those who commit pedophilia or those who have HIV/AIDS and thus spread the disease by commiting sexual acts. So its not the same as “kill all the homos”. You didn’t read your own link. The death penalty also would apply to anyone who is convicted of homosexual acts more than onec (not just pedophilia or having AIDS, but ANY homosexual sex). > [@](#): > > Bullies attack anyone who seems “different” from them. there is no widespread sentiment against Asians for instance (indeed most people see them as model citizens) yet they suffer bullying. The most pernicious bullying is that which occurs when the majority are given to feel that they have social permission to marginalize and harass a minority. > [@](#): > > I don’t think that’s exclusively Christian or Abhramic. After all China and other East Asian nations are more stringently anti-homosexual than the West. who said it was exclusively Christian? So what? How does that excuse Christians? ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/79 "2011-05-01T17:20:43Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > What makes it “sinful?” Who does it harm and what is their justification for calling it a “sin?” > > What’s “bad” about homosexual sex? I believe this has been discussed to the effect of a hundred times here and a billion times total through history. > [@](#): > > I’ve actually looked up that law on Wikipedia to-day and according to it ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda\_Anti-Homosexuality\_Bill](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_Bill): > > You didn’t read your own link. The death penalty also would apply to anyone who is convicted of homosexual acts more than onec (not just pedophilia or having AIDS, but ANY homosexual sex). I already admitted I misread it. > [@](#): > > The most pernicious bullying is that which occurs when the majority are given to feel that they have social permission to marginalize and harass a minority. If this was true than fundamentalists and Muslims would be persecuted and bullied the most considering the Hollywood depictions of the former and paranoidacs rantings against the latter. > [@](#): > > who said it was exclusively Christian? So what? How does that excuse Christians? You were constantly referring to ministers and so on. ---
**Author:** ![Recliner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a88e57/32.png) [@Recliner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recliner)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/80 "2011-05-01T17:34:15Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > So…how should wise people react to this apparent tragedy? Should we grieve because he’s only human, or should we be thankful that the number of dangerous Christian nutjobs in this world has been reduced by one? Would the decision be any easier if he were Hindu (ref. [Sathya Sai Baba](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=605941)), Buddhist, Muslim, New Age, or even Mormon? My personal take on this sort of thing: I don’t care who it is – I’m not going to celebrate somebody’s death. Quietly consider whether its ironic, or what have you? Ehh, perhaps. But, well…why laugh when the hearse goes by? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163.md?page=5)