# Christian propoganda author dies in car accident -- grieve, or celebrate? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 29, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163 "2011-04-29T14:43:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/121 "2011-05-04T01:54:40Z")
The Romans passage does not condemn homosexuality. It says that _God_ made some people have gay sex as punishment for worshipping idols. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/122 "2011-05-04T02:17:26Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > a great man of God who saved a lot of lives > [@spark240](#): > > How’s that? Maybe the truck was going to hit a bus full of orphans if somebody didn’t drive into its path. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/123 "2011-05-04T02:25:40Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Once again, **Qin** , WHY does God condemn homosexuality? I can’t say exactly for I am not Him nor His prophet. > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The Romans passage does not condemn homosexuality. It says that _God_ made some people have gay sex as punishment for worshipping idols. Which would mean homosexual sex is punishment, not reward. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/124 "2011-05-04T02:28:29Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > I can’t say exactly for I am not Him nor His prophet. > > Which would mean homosexual sex is punishment, not reward. Not much of a punishment if you’re gay. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/125 "2011-05-04T02:51:27Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The Romans passage does not condemn homosexuality. It says that _God_ made some people have gay sex as punishment for worshipping idols. > [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Which would mean homosexual sex is punishment, not reward. > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Not much of a punishment if you’re gay. I must admit the whole scenario comes across like some gay guys making excuses to some really credulous believers. Guy#1: “Why no Elder, we didn’t want to indulge in such debauchery with other men! It was _horrible_, I tell you!” Guy#2: “A curse! A _terrible_ curse!” Guy#1: “Yes, that was it! We we cursed to such immoral acts for worshiping false idols!” Elder: “Then why were you seen indulging in sinful acts with each other _again_ last night?!” Guy#2: “Well, there were a lot of idols…” ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/126 "2011-05-04T03:13:59Z")
“We must be punished even more!” ---
**Author:** ![OracleUsr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f19dbf/32.png) [@OracleUsr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OracleUsr)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/127 "2011-05-04T05:52:35Z")
Neither. I didn’t know the guy, so I can’t grieve, but even with his Goebbels-like tactics, I sure as heck won’t celebrate his gruesome death. Bin Laden, yes, but he was more than propaganda. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/128 "2011-05-04T18:14:49Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > “We must be punished even more!” First a spanking, and then the oral sex. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163/129 "2011-05-04T20:25:08Z")
I was talking to my Mom a couple days ago, who’s something of a fundy, and she brought up this guy dying. I only heard of him before from this thread. She was going on about what a wonderful gift of prophecy this guy had, and I said something like “Too bad he didn’t have a prophesy about his upcoming need to wear a friggin’ seat belt.” She was unamused. Then I said something like how it wasn’t meant to be a joke, but to point out what BS it all prophesy crap is. Which was a lie, of course I also meant it as a joke. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-propoganda-author-dies-in-car-accident-grieve-or-celebrate/580163.md?page=6)