# Christian religion and ideology is a threat to us all!!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 2, 2002, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469 "2002-04-02T21:38:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/1 "2002-04-02T21:38:17Z")

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Head for the hills, the Christians are comming the Christians are comming!

Their horrible belief in the ten commandments shatters my sense of security! Their saviour, risen from the dead, is the avatar of destruction and pestilence! Their faith threatens my very existance!

Those Christians, “religious racists” every one of 'em. I even hear that they don’t let anyone who isn’t Christian live with them because they hate everyone else. Not only that, but they initiate wars against non-Christians just 'cause they’re more powerful.

Definitely a threat to us all. What’s the solution? Eliminate Christianity! That way, the world will be safe and happy, and all the bad things that are happening now will go away.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/2 "2002-04-02T21:41:58Z")

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Oh, sorry, here’s the [link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=106169&perpage=50&pagenumber=1).

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**Author:** ![Kamandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5daacb/32.png) [@Kamandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamandi)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/3 "2002-04-02T21:57:06Z")

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You know that the OP of that other thread was a troll, don’t you?

DNFTT

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/4 "2002-04-02T22:03:57Z")

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You mean I can’t say I eat the foreskins of Jewish boys fried in lard and topped with melted cheese for lunch 'cuz I’d be feeding the troll, too?

Damn.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/5 "2002-04-02T22:06:38Z")

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yes, but the conversation/debate continued without him. This is mainly directed at **Sweet Willy** , who seems to ascribe to the ideas in the thread title. And yes, Dough-Nuts _do_ Fill Taut Tummies. sub[/sub]

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/6 "2002-04-02T22:10:52Z")

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The referenced link is just some troll out to stir up trouble; looks like he succeeded.

As for this thread’s OP, sure, let’s eliminate Christianity. If Christians acted the way they say they do–clothing the naked, feeding the hungry, being the light of the world and the salt of the earth–then I’d be all for them.

But they don’t.

American Christianity, by and large, is just a club, like the vegans or the stamp collectors. Christians are no more moral or compassionate than evil heathens like me. Faith in Jesus is just words, without any real change of the heart. The abusive stepfather my mom divorced got saved. Now he’s still the same cantankerous, hateful old bastard he always was, but now he’s got Jesus on his side to justify every hurtful word he says and every cruel deed.

Look at how the Christians treated **Manhattan** after his outburst. Forgiving 70 times 7? Blessing those who curse them? Nope, just good Christian flaming. If you’re not going to take Jesus seriously, why should anybody else?

The Christian Dopers would do well to imitate **Polycarp** as an example of a believer whose faith shows the transforming work of the Holy Spirit.

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**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/7 "2002-04-02T22:15:00Z")

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> And yes, Dough-Nuts do Fill Taut Tummies.

Dough…nuts? I told you, I don’t like ethnic food!

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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Willy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sweet\_Willy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Willy)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/8 "2002-04-02T22:18:55Z")

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> This is mainly directed at Sweet Willy, who seems to ascribe to the ideas in the thread title.

If you wanted to direct something at me you could have just directed it at me. Taunting Christians doesn’t hurt my feelings in the least. The method of a coward.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/9 "2002-04-02T22:19:42Z")

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**go-bear** , I believe you are being whooshed. Let’s wait and see if this thread gets closed as the obvious parody (can’t have parodies in The Pit!) it is before more people take it seriously and it turns into a real fight.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/10 "2002-04-02T22:20:45Z")

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Ooops! I typed too slowly. Sweet Willy’s here.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/11 "2002-04-02T22:22:02Z")

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> go-bear, I believe you are being whooshed. Let’s wait and see if this thread gets closed as the obvious parody (can’t have parodies in The Pit!) it is before more people take it seriously and it turns into a real fight.

I’m not being whooshed; I know it’s a parody of that anti-Jewish thread in GD. But it seems to me that while we’re on the subject, I’d add my two cents.

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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Willy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sweet\_Willy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Willy)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/12 "2002-04-02T22:27:29Z")

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> Ooops! I typed too slowly. Sweet Willy’s here.

Jews and Gentiles never fear,  
indeed Sweet Willy is here.  
Soaring above you kinda like a pigeon,  
taking a dump on any jerk who might tarnish good religion.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/13 "2002-04-02T22:30:18Z")

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**Sweet Willy** , this is not, not, not a flame of Christians at all. The point is that your comments about Judiasm are ridiculous (subject to ridicule) and are just as silly as saying “\_\_\_\_ ideology is a threat to us all,” when most of “us” ascribe to one ideology or another. You are generalizing and stereotyping and being quite anti-semitic in the process. Unless you declare you’d say the same things about Christians, or Muslims, in which case I’d say you are being ignorant and anti-whichever it was.

Also, **Sweet Willy** , it is not my intent to hurt your feelings. What could I possibly gain from that? The only reason I’m bringing this into the pit is because some of what you said seems (as I said before) ignorant, and frankly it gets me upset. I don’t have anything against you personally, just some of your opinions. Call me a coward, but I don’t feel that it’s necessary to insult a person just because he/she has an opinion I disagree with.

On another note… **dropzone** , are we not supposed to start pit threads as parodies? I guess I missed that little rule! Hope this doesn’t get closed, as it’s actually something I’d like to vent about.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/14 "2002-04-02T22:31:46Z")

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Oh, **dropzone** , I get your parody comment now… like, if no one had anything constructive to add (or destructive, this is the pit) and it just turned into one parodical post after another after another after another…

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/15 "2002-04-02T22:34:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\*I’d add my two cents. \*\*

As the King of Adding My Two Cents, you have my permission. 😉

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> \*Originally posted by Eonwe \*  
> \*\*are we not supposed to start pit threads as parodies? \*\*

Nope. You cannot be intentionally funny or cute in The Pit. Lynn will kick your amusing ass back to MPSIMS if she catches you. But now that Willy is here, we needn’t worry about that happening.

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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Willy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sweet\_Willy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Willy)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2002, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/16 "2002-04-02T22:46:24Z")

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OK **Eonwe** , first of all, you are basing your judgement of me on the one thread you have read. Would you consider reserving your judgement of me until you do the little search thingy and actually get an idea of what and who I am? No, of course not. You would make your judgement of me based on that thread. I do apologize if I have hurt you. That is not my intent.

first you state this:

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> Head for the hills, the Christians are comming the Christians are comming!
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> Their horrible belief in the ten commandments shatters my sense of security! Their saviour, risen from the dead, is the avatar of destruction and pestilence! Their faith threatens my very existance!
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> Those Christians, “religious racists” every one of 'em. I even hear that they don’t let anyone who isn’t Christian live with them because they hate everyone else. Not only that, but they initiate wars against non-Christians just 'cause they’re more powerful.
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> Definitely a threat to us all. What’s the solution? Eliminate Christianity! That way, the world will be safe and happy, and all the bad things that are happening now will go away.

Then you say this:

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> Sweet Willy, this is not, not, not a flame of Christians at all.

**Eonwe** you do flame Christians in hopes that it will offend me enough to come in here. As I said before, the method of a coward. If you wish to address me then address me. If you refrain from obvious attempts of hurting _other_ people, I will respectfully debate with you. Otherwise, take your argument to Christians. The GD thread is still open and you are welcome to come on over and join the civilized debate.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2002, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/17 "2002-04-03T03:23:28Z")

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**Willy** , try pulling your head out of your ass and looking at the OP again.

And if you’re still confused, look up SATIRE in the dictionary.

Jesus jumping Christ on a monkey-navigaged plane!

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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Willy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sweet\_Willy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Willy)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2002, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/18 "2002-04-03T03:49:59Z")

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> Willy, try pulling your head out of your ass and looking at the OP again.
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> And if you’re still confused, look up SATIRE in the dictionary.

Well how \*exactly \*would you want me to respond to it **Guinastasia**? Would you like for me to meet his satire with an equal amount of animosity? I could, I but don’t feel any animosity towards the guy. I think he is cowardly for having not been obliged to join the thread to which he refers, but that is not enough for me to consider complete indignation upon him. He opens the thread with a stinging satire against Christians and then announces that it is directed at me? Why? **Enowe** , I ask you, why would you direct a stinging satire about Christians, at me? Just tell me why. Anyway, if you opened this thread to make a point, go ahead and just say it man. This is your thread.

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**Author:** ![apollo9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a3d4f5/32.png) [@apollo9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apollo9)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2002, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/19 "2002-04-03T03:53:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eonwe \*  
> \*\*Head for the hills, the Christians are comming the Christians are comming!
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> Their horrible belief in the ten commandments shatters my sense of security! Their saviour, risen from the dead, is the avatar of destruction and pestilence! Their faith threatens my very existance!
> 
> Those Christians, “religious racists” every one of 'em. I even hear that they don’t let anyone who isn’t Christian live with them because they hate everyone else. Not only that, but they initiate wars against non-Christians just 'cause they’re more powerful.
> 
> Definitely a threat to us all. What’s the solution? Eliminate Christianity! That way, the world will be safe and happy, and all the bad things that are happening now will go away. \*\*

This has already been tried in the former Soviet Union. It didn’t work then and it will not work now. How would you propose to do such a thing anyway? Create a police state? Toss out the U.S. Constitution? Well??:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2002, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christian-religion-and-ideology-is-a-threat-to-us-all/101469/20 "2002-04-03T03:56:07Z")

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Dopers and Dopettes never fear  
Unfortunately Sweet Willy is here.  
Crawling in the mud like a waste of space  
It takes all my willpower not to laugh in his face.

This lesson in “parody” has been brought to you by SPOOFE’s For The Eradication Of Ignorance, for surely, it was necessary for some to receive such a lesson.

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