# Christians aren't perfect...Just forgiven. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2005, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-arent-perfect-just-forgiven/307123 "2005-06-06T13:35:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-arent-perfect-just-forgiven/307123/141 "2005-06-10T19:14:27Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I think the next time you see that bumper sticker you should cover it with one from the SDMB that says simply “CITE?” I don’t do the bumper-sticker thing either, but I would make an exception for that one! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-arent-perfect-just-forgiven/307123/142 "2005-06-10T19:22:31Z")
> [@Orual](#): > > To be fair, it doesn’t say that _flat out_. You or I may infer that, but it is possible that the bumper sticker owner doesn’t mean it that way. Actually, it does. It’s a very direct statement about one group - Christians. It specifically states they are not perfect, just forgiven. The very logical conclustion drawn from that statement is that if you’re not in that group of smug elitists, sucks to be you. Of course, one could turn it around and say non-Christians are perfect, just not forgiven. Hmmm…I see a potential market here. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-arent-perfect-just-forgiven/307123/143 "2005-06-10T20:44:46Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Actually, it does. It’s a very direct statement about one group - Christians. Yes, and only that one group. _Any_ conclusion about other people, no matter how logical it may be, is not part of the original statement. ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-arent-perfect-just-forgiven/307123/144 "2005-06-10T21:10:41Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Of course, one could turn it around and say non-Christians are perfect, just not forgiven. Hmmm…I see a potential market here. 🙂 Better get on that one, right away - _Big_ dollars could be slipping through your fingers. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-arent-perfect-just-forgiven/307123/145 "2005-06-15T10:58:43Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Actually, it does. It’s a very direct statement about one group - Christians. It specifically states they are not perfect, just forgiven. The very logical conclustion drawn from that statement is that if you’re not in that group of smug elitists, sucks to be you. > > Of course, one could turn it around and say non-Christians are perfect, just not forgiven. Hmmm…I see a potential market here. 🙂 It could mean… non Christians don’t need forgivness, they are doing just fine…Thank you!!:). Depends on one’s frame of mind,I would guess. Monavis ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2005, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-arent-perfect-just-forgiven/307123/146 "2005-06-22T15:31:45Z")
I just hate those judgmental Xtian bumper stickers. Or really, religious bumper stickers of any kind. I don’t like being told I’m going to hell for not being a Xtian, and I’m not going to tell Xtians that I think they’re stupid. Their religion is none of my bidness and my spirituality is none of theirs. I don’t see why such a big deal has to be made over it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-arent-perfect-just-forgiven/307123.md?page=7)