# Christians who want to feel a "peace" from God **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 27, 2016, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-who-want-to-feel-a-peace-from-god/750333 "2016-03-27T11:15:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-who-want-to-feel-a-peace-from-god/750333/61 "2016-03-29T16:22:57Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > OK fine 🙂 > > I’ve actually never gotten to the 3rd part because I’m not one to confront people on their bad decisions, but I do know people who can’t seem to figure out why God keeps guiding them to make poor choices. I also know people who make great choices and then do their community a disservice by giving God the credit, as that just makes the former category of people more confused. I wouldn’t characterize it as doing the community a disservice at all (once again, referencing the Doxology as I quoted above). ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-who-want-to-feel-a-peace-from-god/750333/62 "2016-03-30T00:57:58Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > The yelling about God’s will. > > The third part is generally a “I feel a peace about God about this. But I’m still going to pray on it”. Which is functionally not much different to the hyperbolic strawman **steronz** introduced. Whatever form of words are used, its a way for the deist to shut down any opportunity for rational discussion, in favour of the deist making the decision based on their own preference dressed up as the (supposedly) unquestionable decision of their deity. Which is fine when the decision is one personal to the deist. It’s not so great when it’s a decision that affects other people. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-who-want-to-feel-a-peace-from-god/750333/63 "2016-03-30T01:58:28Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Which is functionally not much different to the hyperbolic strawman **steronz** introduced. Whatever form of words are used, its a way for the deist to shut down any opportunity for rational discussion, in favour of the deist making the decision based on their own preference dressed up as the (supposedly) unquestionable decision of their deity. > > Which is fine when the decision is one personal to the deist. It’s not so great when it’s a decision that affects other people. BTW a “deist” doesn’t believe in a personal God, just basically a creator. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-who-want-to-feel-a-peace-from-god/750333/64 "2016-03-30T02:44:36Z")
JohnClay is correct. A deist would not do that. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-who-want-to-feel-a-peace-from-god/750333/65 "2016-03-30T02:44:45Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > BTW a “deist” doesn’t believe in a personal God, just basically a creator. Interesting, thanks. Reading the wiki entry it’s not quite so clearcut as you say, but I must admit I hadn’t realised the nuance at all. Substitute “theist” for “deist” in my last post then. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-who-want-to-feel-a-peace-from-god/750333/66 "2016-03-30T03:22:17Z")
Well, not all theists believe that god is standing by to provide input into their personal decisions. I can’t say I’ve ever heard of a Jewish person “praying on” whether they should start a goat sanctuary and then claiming god signed off on their business decision. (They mght make sure that the goats didn’t push elevator buttons on Saturdays, but that’s different. ) I don’t know how many theological traditions have the idea of a “personal” deity, but it certainly isn’t all of them. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-who-want-to-feel-a-peace-from-god/750333/67 "2016-03-30T11:44:21Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > … > Here are excerpts from his preaching: (I made the video) > > Warning: there is loud screaming at the end of the video. interesting church. Do you attend, too? > [@JohnClay](#): > > …Also in the belongings of my other sister I found birth control pills. (I saw it in an open bag - I didn’t go through her stuff) The first sister said it was for her skin. I am suspicious about that. Anyway they are both totally against sex before marriage now. fwiw, there are lots of reasons women take hormones other than to avoid pregnancy. I know people who take them just to reduce monthly pain and bleeding. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-who-want-to-feel-a-peace-from-god/750333/68 "2016-03-30T13:26:33Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Which is functionally not much different to the hyperbolic strawman **steronz** introduced. Whatever form of words are used, its a way for the deist to shut down any opportunity for rational discussion, in favour of the deist making the decision based on their own preference dressed up as the (supposedly) unquestionable decision of their deity. > > Which is fine when the decision is one personal to the deist. It’s not so great when it’s a decision that affects other people. My Idiot Aunt just goes “lalala”. She has been known to actually stick her fingers in her ears and say “I can’t hear you, I can’t hear you!” before starting a rant on the subject of “you never back me up!”. Later when things blow up (normal, when you mix charcoal, saltpeter and sulfur) it’s always the fault of anybody but her. The ability to deny personal responsibility is actually quite separate from belief in God(s), predestination, personal God(s) or any of that. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-who-want-to-feel-a-peace-from-god/750333/69 "2016-03-30T21:26:23Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > Well, not all theists believe that god is standing by to provide input into their personal decisions. > > I can’t say I’ve ever heard of a Jewish person “praying on” whether they should start a goat sanctuary and then claiming god signed off on their business decision. (They mght make sure that the goats didn’t push elevator buttons on Saturdays, but that’s different. ) > > I don’t know how many theological traditions have the idea of a “personal” deity, but it certainly isn’t all of them. That’s an interesting observation. No, Judaism doesn’t have that tradition. God gave us all laws to follow, but i guess God rarely speaks to individuals, and even then, only about ethical stuff, not about who to marry or whether to invest in a goat sanctuary. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-who-want-to-feel-a-peace-from-god/750333/70 "2016-03-30T21:34:01Z")
Catholicism (the religion of my youth) doesn’t seem to have that tradition either. The people I’ve seen act like that are what would be called evangelicals. I’d also possibly include Mormons and, if the OP is accurate, Pentacostalists. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christians-who-want-to-feel-a-peace-from-god/750333/71 "2016-04-21T09:57:22Z")
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