# Christie endorses Trump

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 26, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230 "2016-02-26T18:14:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/121 "2016-03-01T16:20:32Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> In a hot mic moment, Trump told Christie to leave the stage and go home.  
> Video: [http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/02/27/hot-mic-captures-humiliating-moment-trump-tells-christie-to-leave-stage-video/](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/02/27/hot-mic-captures-humiliating-moment-trump-tells-christie-to-leave-stage-video/)

“Now go home and get your fucking shine box.”

“Okay.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/122 "2016-03-01T16:53:35Z")

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“Okay, _sir_!”

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/123 "2016-03-01T17:00:12Z")

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The Democratic Party is not going to embrace small government conservatism. It may accentuate some moderate aspects to grab some people who are horrified by Trump, and I suppose that could dilute the influence of the left wing. But to describe it the way you did is hyperbole.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2016, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/124 "2016-03-01T21:34:10Z")

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Oh, of course not, I’d never expect such a thing. But if the party split goes from center left vs. center right to nativist vs. inclusiveness, that’s going to take us back to the old days when parties were defined less by ideology than by regional culture.

Certainly in any inclusive party the progressives are going to outnumber the conservatives, but if enough conservative voters are there to be had then the Democratic Party will adjust to that reality a little. Going back to more Clintonian policies is certainly a possibility in that situation, while the Sanders fans get kicked to the curb. When have progressives ever won an election for the Democrats anyway?

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/125 "2016-03-02T00:10:36Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Literally the only thing I can make out of that post is that it is some kind of “what exit” meme I’m not familiar with.

Politicians insincere about their statements? (Paraphrasing mine)

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Politicians who may have no morals whatsoever? (Paraphrasing mine)

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“Welcome to NJ!”  
Chris Christie, Governor

A to B to C. (FTR- I only use Venn Diagrams when referring to certain fine politicians INSIDE The Beltway.)

Maybe your experiences are different than most. Maybe every Pol by You is 100% moral and upstanding.  
(…And maybe all those Cherry Blossoms you’ll see next month were fertilized with Happy Thoughts and Human Kindness…)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/126 "2016-03-02T04:22:45Z")

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The conservative Manchester, N.H. _Union Leader_ says it goofed in endorsing Christie - and that he told them he would never endorse Trump!: [http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/01/politics/new-hampshire-union-leader-chris-christie/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/01/politics/new-hampshire-union-leader-chris-christie/index.html)

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/127 "2016-03-02T15:33:09Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> “Now go home and get your fucking shine box.”
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> “Okay.”

_Oh, Ed, you sounded like Dirty Harry just then_.

- Grace

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/128 "2016-03-02T17:17:45Z")

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Loved [Alexandra Petri’s take](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2016/03/02/chris-christies-wordless-screaming/) on Christie’s subservience at Trump’s rally:

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> Chris Christie has seen things. Things you wouldn’t believe. Things that would make your hair fall out and turn grey all at once. But he cannot speak of them. He can only stand there. Chris Christie is the bearer of a hideous knowledge that hangs on him like a horrible weight. But he has no way to say it.
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> He is embroidering this hideous truth very slowly onto a handkerchief, but it will not be ready in time.
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> Chris Christie must stand and watch as his city is overrun with Imperial troops and his friends are frozen in carbonite.
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> Chris Christie has the glazed and terrified look of someone who has traded his inheritance for no pottage at all, who has watched his credibility dry up and is about to be led back to his basement cage, having lost Winterfell for good.
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> Chris Christie is realizing that the steak he gets to eat inside the Matrix is not worth this.
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> Chris Christie has made a yuge mistake.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/129 "2016-03-02T18:31:32Z")

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While I was watching it it was already an internet phenomenon waiting to happen. Just a pic of that press conference is the funniest and most frightening thing I have ever seen, almost. And it went on so long.

What does he think he’s going to gain out of this?

Have you seen his ad with the town hall, and he’s wearing the orange shoes and rolling around like a beachball telling everyone how strong he is/was? Woof

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/130 "2016-03-02T18:58:50Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Loved [Alexandra Petri’s take](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2016/03/02/chris-christies-wordless-screaming/) on Christie’s subservience at Trump’s rally:

It sounds like Alexandra Petri is either on drugs, or should be. What an insightful comedy routine. Two people on a stage and only one speaks at a time. Shocking.

Does Obama still like to stand in front of physicians he had costumed in lab coats so his supporters understand that they are doctors? At times, comedians can be hysterical.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/131 "2016-03-02T21:42:57Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> You say that as if politicians have no principles whatsoever.
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> Sure, that sounds weird to say, but Christie has gone from being a fairly sane jerk to an insane mega-dick and trying to say he hasn’t changed.

Christie has certain fine qualities, but he has always been a big oportunist. In the 2012 election he all but endorsed Obama. (That helped in his reelection campaign, but did not help with his presidential aspirations.)

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/132 "2016-03-02T22:04:27Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> I believe the rules for the party are decided by delegates at the Convention, which in a scenario where Trump is going to be the nominee, would mean he’d control the party and could block any special “no Trump” rule from being passed. Indeed, since he’d control a majority of delegates, conceivably he could do the opposite and change party rules to take power away from the “establishment”.

The delegates are pledged to vote a particular way on the first ballot. _However_, the delegates themselves are mostly loyal party members selected by the state-level Republican parties. They might personally not want Mr. Drumpf to win, but still be pledged to vote for him. If enough of them feel that way, they could make a ‘no orange candidates’ rule or something, and there’d be nothing he could do to stop them.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/133 "2016-03-02T22:37:02Z")

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It was over when he closed the GW Bridge.

It was only a few years ago, back around Sandy, when there were Serious-Minded People thinking the only way for the GOP to win the WH was to nominate … him.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/134 "2016-03-02T23:05:58Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> It sounds like Alexandra Petri is either on drugs, or should be. What an insightful comedy routine. Two people on a stage and only one speaks at a time. Shocking.
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> Does Obama still like to stand in front of physicians he had costumed in lab coats so his supporters understand that they are doctors? At times, comedians can be hysterical.

I get it. We shouldn’t dare distinguish between normal behavior and Shakespearian level ironic creepiness.

You have a place in the new R party.

The union leader called. It says it wants its endorsement back.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/135 "2016-03-03T15:07:14Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> It was over when he closed the GW Bridge.

(post shortened)

When was the GW Bridge closed? Or more specifically, when do you remember the GW Bridge actually being closed?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2016, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/136 "2016-03-03T15:10:24Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> I get it. We shouldn’t dare distinguish between normal behavior and Shakespearian level ironic creepiness.
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> You have a place in the new R party.
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> The union leader called. It says it wants its endorsement back.

(Underline added)

Who is this “we” you are referring to? Who do you believe you are speaking for?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/137 "2016-03-03T17:36:49Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> When was the GW Bridge closed? Or more specifically, when do you remember the GW Bridge actually being closed?

When Christie Crony Kelly and Christie Crony Wildstein hit on the idea to punish Fort Lee’s mayor. Your loyalty is notable, but really, when do you remember it meaning anything else, in terms of Christie’s political future?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/138 "2016-03-03T18:22:42Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> When Christie Crony Kelly and Christie Crony Wildstein hit on the idea to punish Fort Lee’s mayor. Your loyalty is notable, but really, when do you remember it meaning anything else, in terms of Christie’s political future?

The GW Bridge was never closed. I wonder what else you’re mistaken about?

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/139 "2016-03-03T19:39:07Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> The GW Bridge was never closed.

You’re saying that the GW Bridge has never been closed?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christie-endorses-trump/747230/140 "2016-03-03T19:56:39Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> You’re saying that the GW Bridge has never been closed?

Are we (you and I) talking about the PANYNJ entrance lane closures in September 2013, or did you want to talk about the entire history of the bridge? I’ve always wonder how much concrete was used to make the GW Bridge.

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