# Christine O'Donnell has replaced Palin in my heart of hearts...

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 21, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499 "2010-09-21T02:35:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/321 "2010-10-15T20:41:55Z")

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I hear the sound of furious Googling. This could be the first serious vetting of a Tea Party candidate!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/322 "2010-10-15T20:47:16Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> _\<readies kazoo\>_

_2nd kazoo ready._

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/323 "2010-10-15T21:00:09Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> > _\<readies kazoo\>_
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> _2nd kazoo ready._

I’ll be standing by on the [rimshot](http://instantrimshot.com/), just in case.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/324 "2010-10-15T21:04:31Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> > [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> > I’ve said before that I’m not particularly a fan of O’Donnell.
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> So again, which Tea Party-affiliated candidate are you a fan of?

Just to put a stop to all the racket, who says I’m a fan of any particular Tea Party candidate?

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/325 "2010-10-15T21:11:58Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> > [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> > So again, which Tea Party-affiliated candidate are you a fan of?
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> Just to put a stop to all the racket, who says I’m a fan of any particular Tea Party candidate?

So when you said _supra_

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And this of course raises the question of why so much media attention is being paid to her in the first place? Could it be perhaps that the the media is hoping to defame the Tea Party in its entirety by keeping the focus on its weakest and least adept candidate? Hmmm? Inquiring minds want to know.

you were saying so in complete ignorance of who the stronger and more adept candidates were?

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/326 "2010-10-15T21:18:45Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> you were saying so in complete ignorance of who the stronger and more adept candidates were?

OBVIOUSLY they have good candidates or it wouldn’t support them!

I’ll bet in someone’s tiny little pea brain that was a “gotcha question”, like asking a senator-wannabe about the “Supreme Court”, or a VP-wannabe about “magazines” and “newspapers” and “countries”.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/327 "2010-10-15T21:44:24Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> > [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> > Just to put a stop to all the racket, who says I’m a fan of any particular Tea Party candidate?
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> So when you said _supra_…  
> you were saying so in complete ignorance of who the stronger and more adept candidates were?

Saying that I’m not a fan of any particular candidate at this time in no way means that I’m ignorant of them.

And just for the record, I’m not gonna let you drag me into an argument over them, either.

> [@Merrjeek](#):
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> OBVIOUSLY they have good candidates or it wouldn’t support them!

Anybody actually say that, or did you just make it up so you could pretend they did?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/328 "2010-10-15T22:07:28Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And just for the record, I’m not gonna let you drag me into an argument over them, either.

I wouldn’t either. You’ve clearly come to battle completely unarmed, save for your well-worn butt trumpet.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/329 "2010-10-15T22:14:07Z")

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_\<puts kazoo away\>_

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/330 "2010-10-15T22:34:08Z")

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Take that out, and put it in your pocket where it belongs, you deev!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/331 "2010-10-15T23:48:28Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> > [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> > Monsanto been working on a cold-resistant strain of kudzu?
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> Lichen. Enormous, mobile lichen.
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> But you didn’t hear it from me.

And giant goats to eat the lichen-monsters when they get out of control. And flying fire-breathing orcas to eat the goats. . . .

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/332 "2010-10-16T00:03:46Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> > [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> > So when you said _supra_…  
> > you were saying so in complete ignorance of who the stronger and more adept candidates were?
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> Saying that I’m not a fan of any particular candidate at this time in no way means that I’m ignorant of them.

So having reviewed the tea party’s candidates, you find none of them to be admirable. A reasonable enough conclusion.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/333 "2010-10-16T00:28:14Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> So having reviewed the tea party’s candidates, you find none of them to be admirable. A reasonable enough conclusion.

It would be interesting to know just what you think you’re going to accomplish with this dishonest little bit of fantasy.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/334 "2010-10-16T01:12:53Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> What if the kids is gay and is fapping to Jesus, so as to avoid the temptation to some abominablenation? Singing “O Come, All Ye Faithful”?

“Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/335 "2010-10-16T01:20:30Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> > [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> > So again, which Tea Party-affiliated candidate are you a fan of?
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> Just to put a stop to all the racket, who says I’m a fan of any particular Tea Party candidate?

You obviously see something of value in the Tea Party. The Tea Party is a political movement to elect candidates to public office. It follows that, to be a fan of the Tea Party, you have to be a fan of at least some of its candidates, and take their statements as representative, to some extent, of the movement’s content and agenda. If not, what does represent its content and agenda? On what basis can we definitively say whether it is a libertarian movement or a social-conservative movement or what? On what basis can we predict what Tea Party candidates in general would do in public office? And if you don’t know, why are you for it?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/336 "2010-10-16T01:25:56Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> > [@elucidator](#):
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> > What if the kids is gay and is fapping to Jesus, so as to avoid the temptation to some abominablenation? Singing “O Come, All Ye Faithful”?
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> “Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.”

They better not.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/337 "2010-10-16T01:29:29Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> > [@Bricker](#):
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> > Assuming that’s true, “more eloquent” does not mean “better informed.”
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> > She can talk – unlike, say, Alvin Greene, her speech is cadenced appropriately, measured and direct. But this may create a false sense of competency. A slow, stumbling speaker may be a brilliant policy wonk; a captivating speaker may be spewing bullshit.
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> > Granted, there’s a strong correlation between clear concise speech and clarity of intellect, but as Ms. O’Donnell is showing us, correlation does not equal proof.
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> I’ve said before that I’m not particularly a fan of O’Donnell. I just get tired of the over-the-top and frequently hypocritical comments about her around here, and to me, if people are going to point and laugh over her use of big words, then it’s legitimate to point to their relative silence when it comes to a candidate of their own who was not only much less eloquent but had far less of an idea what she would try to do once she got into office  
> So in other words, I’m attacking the unfair and untrue things said about O’Donnell, and not defending her candidacy itself.

Not a fan. She is a fucking joke. How could you dream up a less qualified candidate ?Nobody exaggerates. All they do is tell you what she said. That is scary stupid.  
Besides she is pudging up and does not even have cute working for now.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/338 "2010-10-17T02:42:38Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> I just get tired of the over-the-top and frequently hypocritical comments about her around here, and to me, if people are going to point and laugh over her use of big words, then it’s legitimate to point to their relative silence when it comes to a candidate of their own who was not only much less eloquent but had far less of an idea what she would try to do once she got into office.

The difference is that Greene is pretty obviously mentally impaired, perhaps even ill, and criticizing him for it is somewhere between merely useless and downright cruel. His “victory” in the primary, given the vulnerable technology used, is highly open to question.

O’Donnell’s just an ignorant fool, unwilling to use the critical reasoning abilities she presumably has. She’s in other words no better than the fools who thought she might be able to actually do a responsible job as US Senator.

And she’s more, um, telegenic. 😉

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/339 "2010-10-17T14:07:21Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> The difference is that Greene is pretty obviously mentally impaired, perhaps even ill, and criticizing him for it is somewhere between merely useless and downright cruel. His “victory” in the primary, given the vulnerable technology used, is highly open to question.
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> O’Donnell’s just an ignorant fool, unwilling to use the critical reasoning abilities she presumably has. She’s in other words no better than the fools who thought she might be able to actually do a responsible job as US Senator.
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> And she’s more, um, telegenic. 😉

Don’t worry about it, she just raised over three million dollars. Since she continually violates campaign laws and uses her campaign funds to pay her personal bills, and she’s moved from chump change to big money, she’ll end up doing time for it soon enough.

At least she’ll probably be able to afford a second outfit for her “speeches”.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christine-odonnell-has-replaced-palin-in-my-heart-of-hearts/554499/340 "2010-10-17T14:36:15Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> > [@elucidator](#):
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> > What if the kids is gay and is fapping to Jesus, so as to avoid the temptation to some abominablenation? Singing “O Come, All Ye Faithful”?
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> “Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me.”

I can almost hear O’Donnell screaming frantically,

“Recalculating! Recalculating! Please Drive to Highlighted Route!” :eek: 😃

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