# Christmas?!!!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 11, 2007, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372 "2007-10-11T19:05:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MrSquishy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MrSquishy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrSquishy)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/21 "2007-10-11T21:38:06Z")

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[QUOTE=hajario]  
I cannot fathom why people are surprised by this phenomena year after year after year.  
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Same here. Is there a name for the phenomenon where, every single year, everyone complains the Christmas decorations are going up earlier than they used to be, even though it is _ **simply not true** _. Is it in the [DSM](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnostic_and_Statistical_Manual_of_Mental_Disorders) somewhere?

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/22 "2007-10-11T21:49:11Z")

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Yeah, and I have a sneaking suspicion that all these stupid xmas items wouldn’t be stocked if there weren’t a fair number of stupid people actually buying them. Space in retail establishments is too valuable to stock things that aren’t in demand.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/23 "2007-10-11T21:49:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Ludovic]  
Have a Happy Hannukhah, Merry Christmas, Kwazy Kwanzaa, and a solemn, dignified Ramadan.  
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Don’t forget…requiem of the dead, beiwe festival, choimus, deuorius riuri, deygan, dongzui festival, goru, hogmanay, hertha ritual, inti raymi, junkanoo, karachun, koleda, brumalia, feast of st Lucy, makara sankranti, wren day, midvinterblot, modranicht, Isis festival, rozhanitsa feast, sabe cele, sanghamitta day, saturnalia, sol invictus festival, soyal, wayeb, yule day, zagmuk and ziemassvetki.

(list taken from the Wikipedia list of celebrations and events that occur around the [winter solstice](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_solstice))

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/24 "2007-10-11T22:52:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Antinor01]  
Don’t forget…requiem of the dead, beiwe festival, choimus, deuorius riuri, deygan, dongzui festival, goru, hogmanay, hertha ritual, inti raymi, junkanoo, karachun, koleda, brumalia, feast of st Lucy, makara sankranti, wren day, midvinterblot, modranicht, Isis festival, rozhanitsa feast, sabe cele, sanghamitta day, saturnalia, sol invictus festival, soyal, wayeb, yule day, zagmuk and ziemassvetki.  
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What, no Festivus?! It’s for the rest of us, you know.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/25 "2007-10-11T23:16:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Autolycus]  
What, no Festivus?! It’s for the rest of us, you know.  
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I knew I’d miss one…

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**Author:** ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/26 "2007-10-11T23:36:59Z")

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That’s cool, we’ll just remind you of it during the airing of the grievances.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2007, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/27 "2007-10-11T23:57:17Z")

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[QUOTE=MrSquishy]  
Same here. Is there a name for the phenomenon where, every single year, everyone complains the Christmas decorations are going up earlier than they used to be, even though it is _ **simply not true** _. Is it in the [DSM](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnostic_and_Statistical_Manual_of_Mental_Disorders) somewhere?  
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Listen, **Squishy** and **hajario** , you two chickens can cluck, cluck, cluck about how we should know better by now, and you can even throw in some snide passive aggressive references to mental illnesses if you want, but if you read through the thread again, you’ll realize that you two are the idiots.

_Nobody_ ever said it happens earlier every year (except maybe **random** - I might grant you that one), and nobody said that they were particularly surprised.

It’s not about it being earlier every year. It’s about it being earlier than it should be.

There, I hope I let some of the arrogance out of y’alls tinsel covered balloons.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/28 "2007-10-12T00:32:44Z")

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Of course it’s earlier than it should be. If I had my way, we wouldn’t have it at all.

Look, **Monkey** , your rant is lame. This shit happens every year. Two or three Pit threads are posted about it every year. Sometimes, though not in your case, these threads are actually entertaining or take a fresh look at the issue.

My point is that people have been complaining about this for-fucking-ever. The topic is played. Get it?

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**Author:** ![fishbicycle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aeb1de/32.png) [@fishbicycle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fishbicycle)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/29 "2007-10-12T00:36:17Z")

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October’s nothin’! This year, I saw my first Xmas TV commercial the day after Labor Day. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one earlier. I’m not shocked or outraged, but 3.7 or so months early is just a tad early, don’t you think?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/30 "2007-10-12T00:37:43Z")

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Well, what it really means is that it’s almost time to re-open the Rudolph thread that explores Santa’s ornithocidal tendencies.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/31 "2007-10-12T01:09:14Z")

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[QUOTE=hajario]  
Look, **Monkey** , your rant is lame.  
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Oh Fuck Off. That’s arrogance again. I will never understand why somebody takes the time to read the thread, hit the reply button, compose the reply and type it out simply to write TWO posts saying “this is lame”. You are thread shitting, asshole.

What the fuck do you get out of this? You don’t even have a good point.

Do you use the same point in all the driving rants we’ve done on this board? i.e. "_Yawn_, In the mid-70’s I was cut off by someone who wasn’t looking, too. I cannot fathom why people are surprised by this phenomena year after year after year. "

You are one arrogant motherfucker. Please forgive me if I don’t bow to your opinion of my thread. If it was that bad it would have died by now, so SHUT THE FUCK UP.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/32 "2007-10-12T01:17:36Z")

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[QUOTE=A Monkey With a Gun]  
Oh Fuck Off. That’s arrogance again. I will never understand why somebody takes the time to read the thread, hit the reply button, compose the reply and type it out simply to write TWO posts saying “this is lame”.  
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I did it because it amused me.

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> You are thread shitting, asshole.

I don’t think that you know what “thread shitting” means.

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> What the fuck do you get out of this? You don’t even have a good point.

_I_ don’t have a good point?

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> You are one arrogant motherfucker. Please forgive me if I don’t bow to your opinion of my thread. If it was that bad it would have died by now, so SHUT THE FUCK UP.

So only people who agree with you should reply? Nah. I’ll shut the fuck up when I feel like it.

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**Author:** ![blinkingblinking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@blinkingblinking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blinkingblinking)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/33 "2007-10-12T01:37:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Random]  
Sheesh. These complaints about early Chistmas displays start earlier and earlier every year.  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=395957&highlight=christmas+display](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=395957&highlight=christmas+display)  
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[Mine was October 2nd](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=438733)

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/34 "2007-10-12T01:45:45Z")

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To **hajario** : Parsing a quote. Nice. That’s a tactic used by somebody who doesn’t have a damn thing to say, a joke to make, or a defensible argument. In your case, probably all three.

This is a benign little pit thread about something that mildly annoyed me. We do these every day. Sure, the X-mas too early thing gets done a couple of times a year. But it’s probably been about ten months since the last one, so I thought there might be some room for some good jokes and amusing stories. You have offered neither.

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> Well, what it really means is that it’s almost time to re-open the Rudolph thread that explores Santa’s ornithocidal tendencies.

What else are you going to eat if you’re stuck in the middle of the arctic?

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/35 "2007-10-12T01:54:14Z")

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[QUOTE=A Monkey With a Gun]  
But it’s probably been about ten months since the last one, so I thought there might be some room for some good jokes and amusing stories.  
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The last one was on October 2nd.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/36 "2007-10-12T02:00:33Z")

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Petty

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/37 "2007-10-12T02:26:44Z")

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Fuck Xmas (or, as I call it, Shopping Day)! It’s my least favorite holiday!!

Now Turkey Day, with its eating, its football, its afternoon nap (and then more eating), and its complete lack of “I need to buy some useless shit because I’m an asshole if I don’t” - that’s what I call a holiday!

ETA: Congrats on the job, **Monkey**!

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/38 "2007-10-12T02:37:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Pullet]

Gimme my holiday that not only admits to, but celebrates its pagan heritage.  
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What pagan heritage? Halloween is a Catholic holiday, always has been.

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**Author:** ![Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/db5fbb/32.png) [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirka_T_Bawa)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/39 "2007-10-12T02:59:58Z")

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I work for Eckerds (Now Rite Aid), and the truck that delivered yesterday had our Christmas stuff on it. All our fall stuff has been on discount for the past few weeks, its up to 75% off already. Didn’t fall just start?

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2007, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christmas/422372/40 "2007-10-12T03:07:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Autolycus]  
What, no Festivus?! It’s for the rest of us, you know.  
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That reminds me. I need to get another aluminum pole soon.

Robin

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