# Chronos, I'm sorry

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**Created:** [July 13, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chronos-im-sorry/967890 "2022-07-13T17:41:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Roger\_That](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roger_that/32/8505_2.png) [@Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chronos-im-sorry/967890/1 "2022-07-13T17:41:13Z")

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But in the Breaking Bad thread that you just banned me from, apparently for using a vulgar term for the idolators of Vince Gilligan’s plotting, did you not realize that (as I wrote) I was quoting someone else’s exact vulgar phrase in that exact thread? I drew the conclusion that the phrase would be okay, since the original user I was quoting (I think exactly) did not get mod-warned, mod-noted, or mod-noticed. Otherwise, I might have used a less vulgar term to describe those admirers of Gilligan’s work.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chronos-im-sorry/967890/2 "2022-07-13T17:45:54Z")

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The posts in question:

> [@Better Call Saul season 6](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/653):
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> I’m sad and lonely, Man. Sad and lonely. Now everybody knows! I gotta do something to keep me from doing crime. I didn’t know this was the “Let’s Suck Vince Gilligan’s Dick” thread. Everybody seems to have their own opinion (quite a few similar to mine, by what I’ve read). But I’m not allowed? Feel free to ignore me. Most everybody else does. 🫥
> 
> Thank you for _your_ service.

> [@Better Call Saul season 6](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/739):
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> You’re free to ignore my posts and I’ll be grateful if you would. I wasn’t aware that this was the “Let’s all suck Vince Gilligan’s dick” thread, as one of the nonexistent posters who never wrote in this thread at all has never written.

> [@Better Call Saul season 6](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/744):
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> I’d say that claiming everyone else in the thread is sucking Vince Gilligan’s dick constitutes a personal attack, so this will be a Warning. It’ll also be a thread ban: Do not return to this thread, or there will be further consequences.
> 
> Everyone else, please do not engage any further with @Roger_That 's posts in this thread, as he will not be able to respond.

Weirdly, after gatopescado’s initial post, Chronos moderated differently:

> [@Better Call Saul season 6](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/655):
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> [Moderating]  
> @Gatopescado , surely in this era of eleventy bazillion streaming shows, you can find something you can enjoy watching and discussing? That’s my official recommendation.
> 
> Absent that… I’m not going to ban you from this thread, and I’m not going to ban you from criticizing the show, but I will say, at least, stop trying to turn this into a pity party for yourself.

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**Author:** ![Roger\_That](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roger_that/32/8505_2.png) [@Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chronos-im-sorry/967890/3 "2022-07-13T17:48:45Z")

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Thanks, LHoD. I’m not good at knowing how to quote from posts in other threads.

The first quoted post is Gatopescado’s, the second one is mine, and the third one is Chronos’.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chronos-im-sorry/967890/4 "2022-07-13T17:50:54Z")

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Maybe quoting someone that got a warning for posting like that almost immediately afterwards isn’t a good idea?

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**Author:** ![Roger\_That](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roger_that/32/8505_2.png) [@Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chronos-im-sorry/967890/5 "2022-07-13T17:53:51Z")

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Where’s the warning? Chronos enumerated all the things he WASN’T doing to Gatepescado that he did do to me.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chronos-im-sorry/967890/6 "2022-07-13T17:54:23Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Maybe quoting someone that got a warning for posting like that almost immediately afterwards isn’t a good idea?

I don’t think that gato got a warning, or even an official mod instruction, for his post.

That said, given all the other posts, it looks like Roger’s comment was the last straw. And my only quibble with the moderation is that probably gato should’ve gotten a warning, too.

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**Author:** ![Roger\_That](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roger_that/32/8505_2.png) [@Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chronos-im-sorry/967890/7 "2022-07-13T18:00:33Z")

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I think I need some guidance here on the general principles of posting in Cafe Society. To my mind, posting critically of some aspect of a TV show, particularly a part (the plotting of episodes) that changes constantly should be encouraged. As I wrote and Gatespescado and others have written, it’s easy enough to ignore posts that criticize an aspect of the show that you’re happy with. In fact, I’d say that posts that ask people who write critical posts to stop posting are junior-modding and possibly threadshitting themselves. I’m not insisting that others stop enjoying Better Call Saul–why do they get to instruct me to start enjoying it more? I often like to watch flawed TV shows, movies, plays etc. and figure out verbally what is lacking in them, what could be improved, what could have been done otherwise–people who don’t want to read such posts can roll their eyes and skip over them.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chronos-im-sorry/967890/8 "2022-07-13T18:05:37Z")

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> [@Roger\_That](#):
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> I’m not insisting that others stop enjoying Better Call Saul–why do they get to instruct me to start enjoying it more?

No, but you _are_ insulting anyone who enjoys the show. It’s one thing to be critical and even insulting of the show, it’s producers, writers or actors, and quite another to do so towards other posters.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chronos-im-sorry/967890/9 "2022-07-13T18:05:42Z")

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You could start with not categorizing those who disagree with you as people who worship the script as holy words written in the ancient texts. And then maybe move on to the specific moderator instructions that were given to you regarding threadshitting:

> [@Better Call Saul season 6](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/549):
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> Moderating: This is a thread primarily for people who enjoy the show. Please don’t thread shit. This one post isn’t a huge deal, but reading back a bit, i see a persistent sense that your posts are making it harder for fans to enjoy chatting with each other. That’s a good sign for you to back off.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chronos-im-sorry/967890/10 "2022-07-13T18:07:41Z")

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> [@Roger\_That](#):
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> I think I need some guidance here on the general principles of posting in Cafe Society.

I’m procrastinating chores, which is the only reason I’m posting in this thread, and probably I need some guidance to get off the computer and go fold laundry. But dude, in the 90 seconds it took me to pull those quotes, I saw that you’ve already gotten some guidance. Do you plan to take the guidance you’re requesting? Because it looks like you got plenty of guidance in that thread and didn’t pay it no never mind.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chronos-im-sorry/967890/11 "2022-07-13T18:17:12Z")

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Following the original use of the phrase in question:  
“[Moderating]  
@Gatopescado , surely in this era of eleventy bazillion streaming shows, you can find something you can enjoy watching and discussing? That’s my official recommendation.”  
Not a warning, but an official recommendation seems roughly equivalent to an instruction to me.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chronos-im-sorry/967890/12 "2022-07-13T18:53:05Z")

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Dude you were ruining the thread. That’s all that matters. Jerk rule.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chronos-im-sorry/967890/13 "2022-07-13T18:53:52Z")

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chronos-im-sorry/967890/14 "2022-07-13T18:54:41Z")

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For a continued pattern of personal insults that has resulted in an excessive number of warnings, @Roger_That has been suspended for one week.

This is closed.
