# Chuck Todd is OUT!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 5, 2023, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034 "2023-06-05T12:34:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/21 "2023-06-05T16:51:51Z")

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If one was larping as a ineffective and slightly dim liberal asshole, this would be a terrific OP.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/22 "2023-06-05T17:54:23Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> I think Todd really knows his stuff politically, he was just often overmatched in interviews.

I agree with this. He’s got the opposite problem that Chris Matthews had. Matthews was a tenacious interviewer but obnoxious when it came to analysis and panel discussions. Those should probably not be duties assigned to the same person.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/23 "2023-06-05T18:01:19Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> He’s got the opposite problem that Chris Matthews had. Matthews was a tenacious interviewer but obnoxious when it came to analysis and panel discussions.

Gads, yes. Matthews talked over people, and was just generally a cranky dude. I don’t miss him.

Getting back to the OP, part of the problem, I suspect, is that mainstream news interview shows, like _Meet the Press_, want to feature guests from across the political spectrum, and that includes GOP politicians and office-holders.

But, we’re in an environment where many of those politicians don’t want to face tough or challenging questions, and a show or host that regularly challenges them on their rote talking points during an interview is a show that may increasingly struggle to get top GOP members to appear.

FWIW, I listen to CBS’s _Face the Nation_ often on Sunday mornings; the Chicago newsradio station carries an audio feed of it. That show’s host, Margaret Brennan, does seem willing to challenge guests (even Republican guests) who won’t directly answer her questions, or just want to parrot their talking points again and again.

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**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/24 "2023-06-05T18:04:52Z")

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> [@gnarator](#):
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> I’m curious what you thought of Tim Russert as host of _Meet the Press_.

Russert was terrific. Tenacious, but civil. He did it right. He got me watching MTP, and it took David Gregory and a few years of Chuck Todd to drive me away.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/25 "2023-06-05T19:11:31Z")

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He had about as much tenacity and follow through as General McClellan. He was a major league pitcher with just one pitch: a slow ball down the middle of the strike zone.  
That was how he handled the job and I did not respect him for it.

Subliminally, he also looked way too much like “Chachi”… and let’s face it: Nobody likes Scott Baio.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/26 "2023-06-05T19:31:24Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> Subliminally, he also looked way too much like “Chachi”… and let’s face it: Nobody likes Scott Baio.

So then… _Charles Not In Charge_?

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/27 "2023-06-05T20:22:35Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> So then… _Charles Not In Charge_?

[_Charles Expelled_](https://nypost.com/2023/05/14/scott-baio-living-in-florida-after-fleeing-california/) !

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**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/28 "2023-06-05T21:18:10Z")

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[Here’s the entire](https://twitter.com/i/status/1665357927568273410) bit that pissed me off yesterday, about the condescending, scolding, hilariously defensive tone Todd took in dismissing the (totally legitimate) criticism he has richly earned over the years. I take the criticism as a compliment, my purple Irish ass.

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**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/29 "2023-06-10T16:06:24Z")

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I like the juxtaposition of these two items in the linked article:

> [Last Wednesday, the “Happy Days”](https://nypost.com/2023/05/08/happy-days-star-scott-baio-announces-hes-leaving-california-due-to-homeless-crisis-crime/) star [announced](https://twitter.com/ScottBaio/status/1653774232629784577) he was moving his family out of California due to the state’s increasing homeless problem that “ **brings down property value** ” and called the state “just not a safe place anymore.”

> Baio, who purchased his Woodland Hills home for $1.85 million in 2010, listed the home last month for $3.85 million, [according to Realtor.com](https://www.realtor.com/news/celebrity-real-estate/scott-baio-lists-his-woodland-hills-mansion-for-3-8m/).

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**Author:** ![pirviii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pirviii/32/3233_2.png) [@pirviii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pirviii)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/30 "2023-06-13T01:27:33Z")

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He could have asked $3.9 million if California wasn’t such a desolate wasteland of homeless and needles.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/31 "2023-06-13T14:53:31Z")

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Seems an odd pitting. Basically pitting the guy because you don’t like him and he got fired???

Probably should have pitted him years ago, not now.

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**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/32 "2023-06-13T16:11:25Z")

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Celebrating the guy getting fired.

You do you, I’ll do me.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/33 "2023-06-13T18:09:36Z")

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> [@slicedalone](#):
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> Celebrating

Not sure that’s the purpose of the pit. But you keep doing you.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/34 "2023-06-13T18:14:39Z")

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He resigned to spend more time with his Möbius strip so he could finally figure out how to both-sides it.

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**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/35 "2023-06-13T18:15:32Z")

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_golf clap_

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**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/36 "2023-06-13T19:24:26Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> Not sure that’s the purpose of the pit.

Suggest a forum for me to have opened such a thread in which it wouldn’t have gotten closed. Maybe Politics and Elections?

Oh, yeah. I did open it up in P&E where it got closed immediately, and I got told to open it up in the Pit.

But I appreciate your well-thought-out empathetic advice. Very helpful.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/37 "2023-06-13T20:01:50Z")

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> [@slicedalone](#):
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> Suggest a forum for me to have opened such a thread in which it wouldn’t have gotten closed.

[MPSIMS](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-political-religious-jabs-in-breaking-news-threads-in-mpsims/740558)

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**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/38 "2023-06-13T20:03:29Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> MPSIMS

Way too ranty.

You really should be taking this up with @What_Exit, who instructed me that I should open it up here.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/39 "2023-06-14T00:31:12Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Matthews talked over people, and was just generally a cranky dude. I don’t miss him.

Ha! Do you remember how, as soon as Me Too became a thing, he just up and retired? Yeah, I’m sure that would have gotten ugly real fast.

> [@solost](#):
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> I never quite got the hate for Chuck Todd. He’s a good political analyst, and election time was really his time to shine, with his enthusiastic county-by-county breakdowns of ongoing election results. In that regard I thought he was at least as good as his fellow NBC analyst, media darling Steve Kornacki.

I concur with this. I liked Chuck.

And Tim Russert, as nice a guy as I’m sure he was, had a face that I just wanted to punch. I can’t exactly say why.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chuck-todd-is-out/985034/40 "2023-06-14T00:40:57Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Ha! Do you remember how, as soon as Me Too became a thing, he just up and retired? Yeah, I’m sure that would have gotten ugly real fast.

Maybe he had other thrills running up his leg.

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