# Church of the Sub-Genius

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-sub-genius/799648>\
**Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\
**Created:** [October 23, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-sub-genius/799648 "2017-10-23T17:49:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-sub-genius/799648/1 "2017-10-23T17:49:08Z")

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Nothing much to say, but an observation. I used to come rolling in from the disco in the early 80’s when I had a little flat, and put on ‘Night Flight’ - a music and oddities show. They would show the fast-talking Bob Dobbs nattering on and on, and he creeped me out so bad I was paralyzed as if watching a cobra. I didn’t know if he was a ‘real thing’ or not, but I found the whole bit skin-crawling…matter of fact, ‘Night Flight’ showed a few other things etched into my memory, unpleasantly so.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-sub-genius/799648/2 "2017-10-23T18:03:34Z")

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[Link to column being discussed.](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1421/whats-the-deal-with-the-church-of-the-subgenius)

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-sub-genius/799648/3 "2017-10-23T18:05:06Z")

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Bob Dobbs had a voice? I thought he just had a pipe. But then I’ve only read their literature.

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**Author:** ![Clothes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Clothes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothes)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-sub-genius/799648/4 "2017-10-23T19:01:11Z")

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Another Night Flight fan! Ow!

Remember this one?  
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNl3g2FswOw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNl3g2FswOw)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-sub-genius/799648/5 "2017-10-23T19:57:33Z")

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I’ve been a “member” since (IIRC) 1984. I’ve met both Ivan Stang and Philo Drummond; my copy of the Book is signed by Stang. Best Subgenius party I’ve been to was prolly during the 1995 Dragon Con in Atlanta. That whole fucking con was a blast!

ETA: I used to use a kind of low-key Project Mayhem method for disbursing the coupons from the back of the book!

EATA:

> [@Clothes](#):
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> Another Night Flight fan! Ow!
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> Remember this one?  
> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNl3g2FswOw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNl3g2FswOw)

I remember this!

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**Author:** ![BobBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@BobBitchin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobBitchin)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-sub-genius/799648/6 "2017-10-23T20:54:22Z")

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I joined the quest for slack in the late 80’s.

The right Reverend Bob Dobbs is the man.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-sub-genius/799648/7 "2017-10-24T14:03:41Z")

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Very odd. I still see COTS stickers around now and then.

A typo in the column: “Philosophically, the church owes\*\* it’s\*\* origin to the Discordian movement of the late 60’s and 70’s.”

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-sub-genius/799648/8 "2017-10-24T14:54:30Z")

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There is a kickstarter to do a documentary of the Church: [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2049586998/the-church-of-the-subgenius-a-documentary](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2049586998/the-church-of-the-subgenius-a-documentary)

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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-sub-genius/799648/9 "2017-10-24T15:00:03Z")

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> [@Clothes](#):
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> Another Night Flight fan! Ow!
> 
> Remember this one?  
> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNl3g2FswOw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNl3g2FswOw)

Thankfully, I missed that one!.. I did see ‘The Cameraman’s Revenge’, a turn of the century stop-motion feature by Ladislas Starevich. Using insects dressed up…and devils, and gorillas. And that too was all so horrifiyingly mesmerizing, like a dream, a real, unsettling dream.

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**Author:** ![Clothes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Clothes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothes)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-sub-genius/799648/10 "2017-10-24T19:17:03Z")

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Yes, that one too.

Night Flight had a real instinct for finding mind-bending oddities that you couldn’t believe you were seeing on television. Such as _“Dr Heckle and Mr. Hype”_, with Oliver Reed! And Jackie Coogan as “Sergeant Fleacollar”. Cool music videos by the Cramps, Ramones, Raybeats, Fuzztones and others MTV would never play. A real beat-up, splicey 16mm print of the Beatles’ “_Magical Mystery Tour_”. _"Andy Warhol’s Dracula._ Animated shorts like _“Quasi at the Quackadero”_ you’d never see anywhere else. And yes, there was Subgenius content too.

It was curated with remarkable care, but you never knew who was behind it - it just existed.
