# Church of the Subgenius **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 5, 2001, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-subgenius/85629 "2001-10-05T18:00:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sir\_viks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@sir\_viks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sir_viks)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-subgenius/85629/1 "2001-10-05T18:00:24Z")
Is the Church of the Subgenius a true religion? If so, what are their beliefs? ---
**Author:** ![k.os](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@k.os](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k.os)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-subgenius/85629/2 "2001-10-05T18:23:41Z")
check out [this link](http://www.subgenius.com/) for more information on the Church of the SubGenius. They are, to my knowledge, a [Discordian](http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=discordianism&r=67) movement. HTH. ---
**Author:** ![Arjuna34](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Arjuna34](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arjuna34)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-subgenius/85629/3 "2001-10-05T18:26:51Z")
Here’s a Mailbag article on this: [What’s the deal with the Church of the Subgenius?](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mbob.html) Arjuna34 ---
**Author:** ![sir\_viks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@sir\_viks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sir_viks)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2001, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-subgenius/85629/4 "2001-10-05T18:54:53Z")
Thank you k.os and Arjuna34 for your quick reply. I actually visited their website before I posted my question, but came away from their site very much more confused then educated. Cecil’s article answered my questions. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2001, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-subgenius/85629/5 "2001-10-06T23:21:38Z")
A couple of years ago, I went “all-over mystical” with a girl and we were getting into Platonism, alchemy, hermeticism, and generally having what Ginsberg called “Mystical visions and cosmic vibrations.” A good time, all in all. Then, I showed her the subgenius video “Arise,” and she had an epiphany. She kept saying… “Oh my God, it’s all true!” Maybe it was all the MDMA, but she got a lot more out of it than the “serious” esoterica. ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2001, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-subgenius/85629/6 "2001-10-06T23:37:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sir viks \* > **Cecil’s article answered my questions.** _ **CECIL’S ANSWER???** _ ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2001, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-subgenius/85629/7 "2001-10-07T00:52:16Z")
It’s a gag. My old roommate had a bunch of subgenius stuff, and we used to have a pretty good chuckle over it. Remember, ‘slack’ is your friend. J.R. “Bob” Dobbs is the man. ---
**Author:** ![ModernRonin2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@ModernRonin2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ModernRonin2)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2001, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-subgenius/85629/8 "2001-10-07T01:01:10Z")
Send $127.52 to: Ben Canti… uh, I mean, Master Of All JHVH’s Slack 3405 Spring Creek Pl Boulder, CO, 80301 OR KILL ME! -Ben 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mischievous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mischievous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mischievous)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2001, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-subgenius/85629/9 "2001-10-07T03:44:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eutychus55 \* > _ **CECIL’S ANSWER???** _ \*\* He’s a newbie, Euty.[sub](like I’m not)[/sub] He knows not what he does. **I** noticed the esteemed author’s name immediately.😉 mischievous ---
**Author:** ![typo\_mna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eb8c5e/32.png) [@typo\_mna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typo_mna)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2001, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-subgenius/85629/10 "2001-10-07T04:17:32Z")
Sorry to hijack, but I recently saw, on a website somewhere, those little Jesus fish for sale (you know, the magnetic ones you put on your car), except they said BOB inside, and the fish was smoking a pipe. Has anyone else seen this, and if so, do you know if they’re really for sale, or just a joke? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2001, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-subgenius/85629/11 "2001-10-07T04:22:28Z")
I dunno, but I WANT one. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2001, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-subgenius/85629/12 "2001-10-07T04:34:27Z")
Here’s a cool site with lots of different ‘fish’ on it: [http://www.meangene.com/darwin/taxonomy.html](http://www.meangene.com/darwin/taxonomy.html) ---
**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2001, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-of-the-subgenius/85629/13 "2001-10-07T12:07:36Z")
(SAT II Writing Tutor Grammar-snot hat on) > [@](#): > > Philosophically, the church owes it’s origin to the Discordian movement of the late 60’s and 70’s. “Its” gets an apostrophe when there’s a letter missing. I know I’m a big jerk, but it’s really late.