# Church website: easy or hard to make the colour of the border match liturgical colours? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [February 9, 2015, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198 "2015-02-09T07:00:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198/21 "2015-02-10T17:55:09Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Advent (and the Sunday next before Advent, Stir-up Sunday) is the tricky one, since it doesn’t start a fixed number of days before Christmas. I think you’d have to program those specific dates for each year, wouldn’t you? You just need to call (or create) a calendar or date and time function/object and add three to the last Thursday in November. Or find a Sunday between 27 Nov and 3 Dec as stated. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198/22 "2015-02-10T19:30:16Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > the Sunday next before Advent, Stir-up Sunday The what now? OK, I looked. I hadn’t heard of this! That the feast of Christ the King for us Catholics. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198/23 "2015-02-10T20:15:23Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > The what now? > OK, I looked. I hadn’t heard of this! That the feast of Christ the King for us Catholics. Feast of Three Kings (Epiphany) is after Christmas. This one appears to be before Advent. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198/24 "2015-02-10T20:21:52Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Feast of Three Kings (Epiphany) is after Christmas. This one appears to be before Advent. Not those kings, Christ the King! > **[Feast of Christ the King](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feast_of_Christ_the_King)** > > The Solemnity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, King of the Universe, commonly referred to as the Feast of Christ the King, Christ the King Sunday or Reign of Christ Sunday, is a feast in the liturgical year which emphasises the true kingship of Christ. The feast is a relatively recent addition to the liturgical calendar, instituted in 1925 by Pope Pius XI for the Roman Rite of the Catholic Church. In 1970, its Roman Rite observance was moved from October to the last Sunday of Ordinary Time and thus t ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198/25 "2015-02-10T22:00:49Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Fixed. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198/26 "2015-02-10T22:06:46Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > The what now? > OK, I looked. I hadn’t heard of this! That the feast of Christ the King for us Catholics. In the Book of Common Prayer, the Collect for the Sunday Next Before Advent begins “Stir up thy people, O Lord…,” It became traditional to begin the Christmas baking that Sunday, which involved stirring the pudding batter. Everyone in the house is expected to take a turn for good luck. Hence, “Stir-up Sunday.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198/27 "2015-02-10T22:14:03Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > Not those kings, Christ the King! > [Feast of Christ the King - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feast_of_Christ_the_King) I swear it said Three Kings! 🙂 (Damn eyes.) ETA: And I swear on preview I saw Three Kings again. My brain is apparently just wanting to read that for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198/28 "2015-02-10T22:34:12Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > In the Book of Common Prayer, the Collect for the Sunday Next Before Advent begins “Stir up thy people, O Lord…,” > > It became traditional to begin the Christmas baking that Sunday, which involved stirring the pudding batter. Everyone in the house is expected to take a turn for good luck. > > Hence, “Stir-up Sunday.” 🙂 In the spirit of ecumenism, I will make a note to bake something that day! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198/29 "2015-02-11T12:18:21Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > You just need to call (or create) a calendar or date and time function/object and add three to the last Thursday in November. Or find a Sunday between 27 Nov and 3 Dec as stated. If you can do it by the days of the week, like “last Thusday in November”, wouldn’t it be simpler to say “last Sunday in November”? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198/30 "2015-02-11T12:25:17Z")
“Last Sunday in November” is incorrect, though. It could be December 1, 2, or 3. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198/31 "2015-02-11T13:23:44Z")
You see, this is why I come to you guys on anything related to numbers. 4 Sundays before Christmas /= 4 weeks before Christmas. ---
**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198/32 "2015-02-11T21:00:46Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > OK, I looked. I hadn’t heard of this! That the feast of Christ the King for us Catholics. Before the calendar reform of 1962, the feast of Christ the King was celebrated on the last Sunday in October. The final Sunday of the liturgical year (i.e. the one immediately preceding the first Sunday of Advent) was known as the _Last Sunday after Pentecost_. Its collect begins _Excita, quaesumus Domine, tuorum fidelium voluntates…_ or > [@](#): > > Stir up the wills of Thy faithful people, we beseech Thee, O Lord… the original source for the collect in the Book of Common Prayer. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198/33 "2015-02-11T21:08:34Z")
> [@tellyworth](#): > > That’s overcomplicating things. The dates are predictable, you just need a table of dates for the next 20 years or so. The church should be able to provide that. I’m going to have to go with this. Seriously, if you can put even 5 years of dates in a table, that’s something you only need to touch once every 5 years to keep it running. Also, when you turn it over to someone else to work on, it’s not some arcane calculation that requires someone to count out days to check that it’s correct, it’s a date. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198/34 "2015-02-11T21:36:47Z")
I thought this thread would be about how to best get the color in the web browser to match the pulpit cloth. ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198/35 "2015-02-11T21:59:57Z")
Your best bet is to use someone else’s code for the liturgical calendar. A quick search on github reveals [url=https://github.com/caiofior/catholic-liturgical-calendar]at least one open source project. Simply plug it into your code and add a few lines of logic to change the color. If you find an bug in the code, let the author know so everyone can benefit from fixing it. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198/36 "2015-02-12T03:02:38Z")
> [@Cunctator](#): > > Before the calendar reform of 1962, the feast of Christ the King was celebrated on the last Sunday in October. The final Sunday of the liturgical year (i.e. the one immediately preceding the first Sunday of Advent) was known as the _Last Sunday after Pentecost_. Its collect begins _Excita, quaesumus Domine, tuorum fidelium voluntates…_ or the original source for the collect in the Book of Common Prayer. Thanks for the info! I don’t think I’ve ever heard “Stir up…”; I think that one I would have noticed! gigi, b. 1968 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/church-website-easy-or-hard-to-make-the-colour-of-the-border-match-liturgical-colours/712198.md?page=1)